Who should determine when mass voter fraud has occurred in a federal election?

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Who should determine when mass voter fraud has occurred in a federal election

  1. The poll officials

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  2. The ballot canvassers

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  3. The federal courts

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  4. The Department of Homeland Security

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  5. The Department of Justice

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  6. All of the above

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  7. The losing candidate's lawyers

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  1. TCassa89

    TCassa89 Well-Known Member

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    Simple and easy question

    We hear a lot of talk about mass voter fraud these days, from people claiming that it happened, and people claiming that it did not happen, but whose job is it to officially determine whether or not there was in fact mass voter fraud that took place?
     
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    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    Apparently, you haven't read the Constitution. The State Legislature determines how electors are chosen, to include measures that prevent fraud written in the state election laws. The US Supreme Court can rule to ensure that the laws passed by each state legislature are followed by those executing the voting and counting, but I believe that's the limit of their jurisdiction. A damaged party can shed light on issues through lawsuits, and may have to go through corrupt state courts to get the attention and heard by the SCOTUS.
     
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    SCOTUS can determine if a lawsuit has merit and provide remedy of such. Precedent says certification can be nullified.
     
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    It certainly should not be tweeters and social media bullshit spreaders who operate with diarrhea minds.
     
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    TCassa89 Well-Known Member

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    but the federal government has oversight over voter suppression and voter fraud, when in fact federal law is broken
     
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    The court system is the final word.

    Unless the military get's involved then they would have the final word.
     
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    The courts have final say, and they have said that Trump's cases lack merit.

    I mean, they literally tried to pass off a FAKE afidavit, with the person's name and personal information redacted. And this is how the judge received it. They gave it to the court with all of the vital information of the person making the claim blocked out, and the judge threw it right back in their faces, telling them that if the person making the accusation doesn't have the balls to infentify themselves and give direct testimony, he's not going to accept their afidavit. (The constitution prohibits anonymous accusations under the 5th amendement)
     
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    Title 52 of the US Code addresses (I) Voting Rights, (II) Election Administration to include voting infrastructure standards, and (III) Campaign Finance for federal elections. State Legislatures write the Title 52 compliant laws that determine how electors are selected in Presidential Elections. I was under the impression that voting systems had to be approved by the Federal Government. I don't see how a worker unscrewing a panel and changing software just before an election washes with that.
     
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    The voting systems were in fact approved by the federal government, more specifically, they were approved by the U.S. Election Assistance Commission (EAC). I don't know where you heard that any equipment or software used was not approved, but one thing is certain, you definitely didn't hear it from the EAC, or any of the state or federal agencies who oversee the election
     
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    ~ Evidence will determine if there was vote fraud/manipulation. As of now it looks as if the Supreme Court will decide .
     
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    Machines were approved, some as late as August, but some say they were updated the night before the election.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/04/georgia-election-machine-glitch-434065
     
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    but some say they were updated the night before the election.”

    Herein lies the problem. Hearsay is what people are relying on as “evidence” of voter fraud. This nonsense has to stop.
     
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    ~ Regardless of what the federal government EAC approved - some states took it upon themselves to look closely at this software and rejected its use.
    · Attorney General Ken Paxton, whose office was involved in the decision to reject the software, said : “We have not approved these voting systems based on repeated software and hardware issues. It was determined they were not accurate and that they failed — they had a vulnerability to fraud and unauthorized manipulation.”

    https://thetexan.news/texas-rejecte...ing-system-software-due-to-efficiency-issues/
     
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    Didn't GA use Dominion software? And Didn't GA hand recount confirm original outcome?
     
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    I went with "The losing candidate's lawyers" especially when that candidate has a history of lying 75% of the time

    In one of Trump's bios he actually says that he often gets his way by "whining".
     
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    You may have to get through to enough corrupt SUPREMES so that IF there are enough corrupt SUPREMES they will rule on the side of liars such as Donnie.
     
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    Kamala Harris' campaign photographer disguised as a Dominion Voting Systems technician should decide. The server crashed in Fulton County during the recount, yes the same Fulton County that was home to the pipe break that wasn't a pipe break, but an excuse to send poll watchers home while thousands of votes were uploaded. The other pivital counties were able to stop voting to determine how many fraudulent votes were needed without a phony pipe break. Fulton now needed a phony crash for some reason.

    Anyway, heaven knows why Kamala's campaign photographer was needed this late in the fraud. Is it possible someone counted wrong? They are Democrats after all.
     
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    The only Fraud is the current White House occupant.
     
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    Not really. A feature of the system is to delete the evidence. There was a reason Texas rejected the system. Canada, the home of Dominion, doesn't use it. Maduro uses it.

    There is good reason that Democrats oppose election security and have for decades. No one wants what they're selling so they have to cheat. What made it worse was that Trump was making inroads into black communities and Democrats couldn't smuggle illegals into the country fast enough given the wall.
     
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    Exactly. All you need now is some fraud. Got any?
     
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    Reno bike cops ride BMWs. The county rides Harleys. Therefore, Reno cops are fraudulent.

    Good luck with your argument.
     
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    It's the crime of the century. Of all time. What masterminds those democrats are. Obviously much smarter than Republicans.
     

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