Does Uncle Joe really wanna give ILLEGALS the $1200 corona stimulus check?

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  1. Collateral Damage

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    The IRS would require you to claim the income, and pay the taxes associated with. ALL the taxes. But then you could claim the fact that your ID was stolen. Once you do that, you lose all credit for taxes paid (SS and Mcare), any federal withholding (normally so many deductions are claimed that no FWH is deducted) but the government keeps the money.

    Do you still see your ID being stolen as a 'good thing'?
     
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    Doesn't work that way. Sorry. Make something else up.
     
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    Actually, yes it does.

    But you go ahead and think that no gets impacted from stolen identities, and I hope you never find out first hand the greif and aggravation that goes along with it.
     
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    Drama queen.
    They just make up a number or use a friends.
     
  5. Collateral Damage

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    No, they don't 'just'. Apparently not only do you not have knowledge of hiring practices, but apparently you also don't comprehend, or just don't care, that people are impacted by the illegal use of their information by illegal immigrants.

    As to the name calling, drama is far from any truth regarding me. Ditch or deny, your lack of knowledge of the subject at hand is obvious.
     
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    Paste this in your google.

    how do illegals get a job with fake ss number
     
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    ronv Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, those Tanzanians. They're everywhere, and they all send their money home. :)
     
  9. Xyce

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    Your argument just went from bad to worse. About half of American citizens don't pay taxes, but that should not mean that we should therefore give millions of illegal immigrants healthcare for free. Furthermore, the comparison is weak, considering that the half of the citizens who don't pay taxes may have paid taxes at a certain point in time, but just not anymore, whereas half of the illegal immigrants never paid taxes.
     
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    Maybe, maybe not.
    But either way they spend money.
     
  11. Bow To The Robots

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    I think President Harris will give them all free Cadillacs.
     
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    They could pay 100% of all income taxes collected. Are you forgetting the part where THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE??????
     
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    I love how you, one by one, keep taking their contributions away, making a weaker and weaker case for them getting taxpayer-funded healthcare. I would say that I hope Joe Biden argued like you, but, then again, I think the media would cover it the same--that is, not at all.
     
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    If you really want to change the topic you should start a thread.
    This one is about stimulating the economy.
     
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    And the Democrats. And it will go up higher under Biden, especially considering that he has a healthcare plan that will cost past $1 trillion; that alone will surpass Trump. But, yes, increasing the national debt is a bipartisan problem. The solution is not to increase taxes to pay for the out-of-control spending, especially when we never balance the books, even with a tax increase. What we need to do is fundamentally limit the scope of government. In fact, we should limit it to the size of the early commonwealth.
     
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    You are gaslighting.

    You are the one that is trying to justify illegals getting taxpayer-funded healthcare by talking about how much taxes they pay, and then when you get painted in a corner, you say that we are changing the topic, as if we're not replying to what you're saying.
     
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    Uhhh... no. It's about giving tax money to unlawfully present persons. How can I say this? Because, are you ready for this? I ACTUALLY READ THE TITLE OF THE THREAD!!!!
     
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    Show where I said something about healthcare.
    I'll be here long enough for you to check my posts.
     
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    Did you miss the stimulus part?
     
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    Did you miss the ILLEGALS part? We can do this all night I suppose...

    Topic abstract: "Should unlawfully present individuals be eligible for government largesse" ? No. They should not. They should go home. /thread.
     
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    The question is what is the purpose of the stimulus.
    It's to get money into the economy.
    You could sprinkle the money around the country like salt and get a similar result.
     
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    The premise of my original post was that the Democrats would give a Chinese Virus stimulus check to illegals because they already want to give healthcare for free to illegals, and you then responded to me, justifying why illegals deserve free healthcare, and then, one by one, I knocked your arguments down, and now you're saying that the topic is about the stimulus check, not healthcare, even though my point about healthcare is pertinent to the subject of the thread.
     
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  25. ronv

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    I didn't bring up healthcare you did.
    I was responding to the stimulus.
    But keep saying it maybe it will come true. But I gotta tell you. It didn't work for Trump and it won't work for you.
     

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