Hours After Brian Kemp Declined to Overturn Georgia's Election Results, Trump Slammed GOP Governor

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  1. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You dont see what Trump is doing to the core of our democracy, the free and fair election ?

    I’ve seen polls that show up to 75% of republican actually believe that their was massive fraud in this election. 75% friggin percent of republicans actually believe this crap with literally no evidence. THAT is the damage being done to democracy. Look what’s happening in Georgia right now. There are polls out that say that over 30% of republicans actually say they wont vote in the run off because they believe its already rigged.

    Trump and the cult are actively working to destroy democracy on their way out, because they believe that the election was stolen. They are following, and fervently believe what Trump is telling them. If you cast doubt in the electoral process, it creates doubt, and delegitimizes those actually elected thru that process.

    But I expected nothing less from Trump. He started lying 15 minutes into his presidency with the “largest crowd in history” comments. When his followers started believing him over the photographic proof they were wrong, at that point I knew the country was in trouble. Look, Trump has done some good things for america, but every one of them is overshadowed by what he is doing now.
     
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    I have listened to Joe speak, and in the past year it has been on the decline at a steady pace. Some days are better then others, some days are worse. It happens. It's sad, but it does happen. I'm sorry if pointing it out pisses you off but that's not my problem. The man's cognitive functions are on the fall. He's nearly 80 years old, it's not that big of a surprise.
     
  3. ChiCowboy

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    The videos I offered were from Friday. There are plenty others out there. You haven't shown me one much less any to compare. You have nothing but memes, and that's what your opinion is after all, a meme.

    I've followed Joe Biden since his Senate days. He's old, not in mental decline. Anybody being honest with himself knows this.

    I don't get angry over partisan rants. Lol. The only thing you've pointed out is ignorance of Joe Biden.

    The guy that lost says woman man person camera tv. That's the guy you should be concerned with, not Joe Biden.
     
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    You say you "don't care" and that neither of them are fit for the position, but you single-out Biden for specific criticism when it is Trump who is destroying this country. You show where your loyalty REALLY lies.

    Let's see if you can answer this: why do you think Trump is appointing his proven lackeys to top positions in the Pentagon?
     
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  5. RedWolf

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    Was I supposed to show you something? Well my bad for not catering to your every whim. And no, I didn't this information from memes, I got it from observing him.

    And good for you for following him. Me, I've worked at a mental institution for years. I've talked with the patients, doctors, and nurses. I've been around all sorts. The signs are there.

    Nothing about that is a partisan rant. I'm independent. And just because I point out Biden doesn't mean I support Trump. If you want to come at me, then come at me with things I've actually said, not your own personal assumptions.
     
  6. Patricio Da Silva

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    why don't you go look at the bills, they are online. Why are you expecting others to do you work for you?

    When LBJ was in office his party only faced 2 filibusters. When Obama was in office, his party faced over 100 filibusters from McConnell.

    You should, therefore, direct your questions to McConnell, not the democrats.
     
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  7. RedWolf

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    Do tell me, where are my loyalties? Please oh please complete stranger all the way on the other side of the internet, please tell me about myself.

    Trump is free to assign whoever he wants wherever he wants. He's still president and has that authority. When Biden/Harris takes over they get to do the same.
     
  8. Kode

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    No need. You already did and you should know.

    I knew you wouldn't dare answer.
     
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    So hilarious after 2016. Bet you didn’t whine about democrats then.
     
  10. RedWolf

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    So you're unable to tell me about myself or accept the answer I provided to your question. At least be meaningful if you're going to waste my time.
     
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    I didn't say you supported Trump. I actually didn't think you did. I said you should be more concerned with someone who says person woman man camera tv than Joe Biden. That is, if your concern is mental fitness.

    Where you work is irrelevant. What you're doing is diagnosing someone based on speeches and press conferences, none of which indicate any mental decline. That's what I'm asking you to show. If you can't, you're just giving an uninformed opinion which I can discard because I have followed Joe Biden.

    It's a meme. Bernie Bros said the same thing. Then Joe beat Sanders in the debate. And he crushed Trump. It's a meme with no basis in reality, and after Biden is sworn in, it won't last very long.
     
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  12. Patricio Da Silva

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    Oh, I dunno, why don't you ask the loved ones of the over 270,000 people who died because of his incompetence for your answer regarding 'performance' ?
     
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    Hmm. Whats it called when the Speaker of the House rips up a presidents speech in front of everyone as he’s wrapping up? That is the most supreme example of pure hatred and political evil....and childishness.
     
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    I dunno. What do you call a POTUS who addresses the SOTH as Crazy Nancy?
     
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    Dirty Donalds one and only objective is to destroy democracy as we have known it in the USA, and thus far he has a fair amount of our population succumbing to his self serving lunacy.
     
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    I like that idea! The biggest problem with the death penalty isn't that it exists, it's not that it's used, it's that it's not used often, or rapidly enough. Death row inmates routinely spend more time in a cell awaiting their execution than their victims did anywhere throughout their entire lives. Having options seems like a good idea, especially when so many appeals based on the alleged unavailability of drugs are successful.

    BTW, if we have enough drugs to put our animals down humanely, why all of a sudden is there a shortage when it comes to putting down despicable humans who deserve it?
     
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    Where are the democrats protecting the Constitution when someone wants to jam their latest anti-2A bill down our throats?

    EDIT: Or even better, when they want the President and Governors to just declare mandatory mask wearing into law without those laws going through the Congress or State Legislatures, first?

    I could keep going...
     
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    The ONLY thing in your post I agree with is the last sentence. And the answer is that authorities made the decision that extreme suffering in death is appropriate punishment for the crimes. THAT is sick psychology. It is a pathological perspective.

    But I'm in favor of at least providing some process, .... some guarantee, .... that if a convict is to be executed, it be certain that the convict is in fact guilty with ZERO room for error. And then use the same drugs they use on horses, cattle, dogs, etc.
     
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    Do you say the same thing about State Governors (or Presidents) just creating "laws" out of thin air as if they were royalty, without Legislative (or Congressional) approval (when even with approval they're Constitutionally suspect)? I mean AOC, Queen Nancy "don't do as I do, do as I say" Pelosi, and other members of the left are pressuring Biden to use EOs to pass "legislation" that the Congress won't approve... Where is your defense of the Constitution and disdain for "wanna be kings" then?
     
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    I guess your sympathies don't extend to the actual crime victims, huh? And their families?

    An impossible standard. Nothing humans touch is subject to ZERO room for error, it's literally not possible. Hell, we even managed to screw up a mission to Mars that cost untold hundreds of millions of dollars over a simple math error that a second grader of average intelligence could have spotted.
     
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    Where was yours for 4 years of EOs?

    If Biden only relies on Congressional votes to get laws passed, he will get nothing done. That's what McConnell wants. Do you want him to get nothing done?
     
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    That's a bullshit smear. But you're saying that you prefer the sick policy of making sure criminals suffer inhumanely.

    So you approve of allowing for some number of innocent convicts being executed wrongly. Why am I not surprised.
     
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    I sure hope not. They're basically the only weapon we have to prevent companies such as Apple from sending labor offshore for the sole purpose of being able to get it done while paying 12-year-olds $0.25/day. Bringing that labor back home is a laudable goal, and if it causes the price of iPhones (which are already overpriced junk) to go up, or Apple's profits to go down, so be it.
     
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    I literally spent about half of Trump's term in this or that hospital in a semi-catatonic state where I could not form memories, so I don't know what he might have done that was objectionable. But if he did use EOs to get something "passed" in lieu of Congress doing so, I would have (and do) object to it.

    If only we could be so lucky. We'll all be better off it that happens. If any given idea is so unpopular that a President has to act like a King to get it enacted, it's probably not something that should be law in the first place.
     
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    No. It’s more like “we want to see what you are reading that makes you think like you do.” I only laugh and sneer when you then link us to the CNN article that you foolishly believed to be true.
     

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