Criminalization of private speech coming to U.S.

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    why, you gonna try to steal my guns???

    :p
     
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    I didn't vote for the gun grabbers, you did.
    Might as well just go surrender them now.
     
  3. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Biden has no intention of taking my guns, they are not assault weapons.

    and he doesn't want to take them, he wants them registered under the NFA which totally makes sense.

    sorry you lost the election.
     
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    They won't need to be assault weapons pretty soon.

    Voting has consequences and you losing your Guns is one of them.

    Of course they are coming for them, just look at Biden's appointments so far.

    Anyways it will be funny to watch you folks defend it.
     
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    sign, nothing but dishonest hyperbole.

    sorry you lost the election.
     
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    I wasn't running so how could I lose?
     
  7. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    your boy lost. your team lost. your ideology and vision for america lost.

    sorry man
     
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    I beg to differ. I'm not a Dem or a Repub, but I am a liberal and a gun owner, and I shoot straight. :)
     
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    me too
     
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    Well, the UK doesn't have free speech. Royal subjects are subject to the whims of the government nanny.

    The few exceptions generally are limited to inciting, terroristic threats, "fighting words" and certain restrictions on "time, manner, and place," such as a courtroom, a security line at the airport, etc..

    Of course it does. Which Constitution are you reading?

    Fallacy. A department store is private property. The property owner may do as it sees fit (for now). The Constitution only restricts the government, not free citizens (for now). There is no free speech on someone else's property.

    Fallacy. Again. Private property. Again. There is no free speech on someone else's property.

    You've just contradicted yourself if you don't understand the "complaints" some have against social media platforms who have demonstrated their willingness to censor on a basis that is anything but impartial. That said, like this forum, participation is voluntary and the terms and conditions are agreed to by the end user as a requirement of participating. That said, those complaints are meaningless because, like this forum, Twitter, Facebook, et al, are private property.
     
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    They do in a free state like the U.S.. Other parts of the world where there is no free speech? Not so much. And I think that's the point of the thread -- coming soon to a town near you: Government nannies who will tell you what you can say even in your own home. This is the next logical step in cancel culture. Heck, we've seen private emails go viral and ruin careers. A deep, dark prison cell is the end of this game for those who run afoul of the Thought Police.
     
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    Excellent post. The end game of these tyrants is something not unlike Orwellian ministries of truth and thought police. When you can't walk into a talk with a controversial figure on a college campus without passing a sign that says "DANGER: YOUR DELICATE WORLD VIEW MIGHT BE CHALLENGED BEYOND THIS POINT," that is the pre-conditioning of the next generations to accept all kinds authoritarian statism from the government nanny. And eventually those young folk will be making policy as elected officials...
     
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    Typical yellow journalism. The warrant was issued on the basis of unauthorized access to a government computer system. Conveniently left off the headline. "They pointed guns at me!" she cries... yeah, they knocked on your door for 20 minutes, lady... you hung up on them... :roll:
     
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    Only two? Curious what you're packing... If you don't mind.
     
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    Do you own any semi-autos? You know President Harris wants you to turn them in...
     
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    When a society decides it not just can, but should, criminalize the "wrong" opinion, said society has chosen to throw its freedom out the window.
     
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    And will send you to jail if you don't.
     
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    They DO have such a right in the U.S.
     
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    For now...
     
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    Things like genuine Hate Speech and Holocaust Denial do deserve punishment.

    Sadly in Western World 2020, thousands of people are cancelled for speech which is far from genuine Hate Speech.
     
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    Is it?
    You surely have some sources supporting this claim. Please post them.
     
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    That seems to happen often at colleges and universities. It disgusts me more than the hate speech they're so afraid of. Let everyone be heard, then let the bullshit they spew be debunked. Even the flat earthers have a right to their delusions.
     
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    Who is to determine what is "Hate Speech" and why is rejection of the fraudulent holocaust narrative worthy of punishment when there have been so many far more genuine, reprehensible crimes against humanity?

    Even the term "Holocaust denier" is a disingenuous misnomer for people who are better informed on the subject and who do not deny that the holocaust "happened" but reject its grotesque embellishments and greatly inflated casualty counts(1).

    The fact remains that the standard holocaust narrative is a combination of residual Allied atrocity propaganda(2) and complete fabrications generated by Hollywood(3) the for-profit, fraudulent Holocaust Industry(4), (5).

    It is at least as naive to think that only the "other" side employed atrocity propaganda as it is to believe the marketing endeavors of a Holocaust Industry so dishonest that it would cheat genuine holocaust survivors.

    Finally, if the standard holocaust narrative were truthful, it would not need laws to protect it from honest historical examination and open discussion.


    (1) ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS”
    https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/

    EXCERPT "Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts.

    Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth.

    Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust."

    - Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated.

    - people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED


    (2) “Auschwitz: Myths and Facts”
    http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml

    EXCERPT “Allied Propaganda

    The Auschwitz gassing story is based in large part on the hearsay statements of former Jewish inmates who did not personally see any actual signs of extermination. Their beliefs are understandable, because rumors about gassings at Auschwitz were widespread. Allied planes dropped large numbers of leaflets, written in Polish and German, on Auschwitz and the surrounding areas which claimed that people were being gassed in the camp. The Auschwitz gassing story, which was an important part of the Allied wartime propaganda effort, was also broadcast to Europe by Allied radio stations. [15] CONTINUED

    15. Nuremberg document NI-11696. NMT "green series," Vol. 8, p. 606.


    (3) "The Hollywood Directors Who Filmed the Liberation of Nazi Concentration Camps"
    https://hyperallergic.com/426644/lamoth-filming-the-camps-the-holocaust/

    EXCERPT "George Stevens, John Ford, and Samuel Fuller, best known for their work in Hollywood, all documented the Allied liberation at the end of the war.

    But during this period of war, they were acting less as artists than as functionaries of US propaganda and information efforts, working for the US Armed Forces and Secret Services.CONTINUED


    (4) "17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE"
    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U

    EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED


    (5) "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"
    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298

    EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.”
    CONTINUED
     
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    I've already asked this, do you have any reliable sources to support this claim?
     
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    It's old news sir, and even links to it would not change your mindset.
     

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