From herd immunity meets criminal responsibility

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  1. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So that you would refute your own claim that Trump is responsible for Covid deaths.
     
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    I didn’t say anything about Operation Warp speed, which did absolutely nothing for the cause of prevention or arresting the spread of the virus.

    The concept of herd immunity was greeted with alarm by epidemiologists when it first surfaced. It was denounced, everywhere but in Trump world.

    Yes, “herd immunity” was a political gimmick. Trump loved it. Because he could hide behind it.

    Herd immunity was his excuse for not doing anything to prevent the spread.

    So, while other countries shut down, bent the curve, and were able to reopen to a far greater degree than we were, our leader did nothing, denounced the idea of prevention, flaunted his own task force’s reccomendations. After the fact, he glommed onto this herd immunity idea.

    The only people who ever promoted it are on parler, and the quacks that Trump surrounded himself with.

    Yes, the was a political gimmick. It was Trump’s excuse for failure.
     
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  3. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You made that argument before. I can put Democrats ahead if we go by congressional district. I don't care for either party and would never trust a politician with my health. I feel bad for those infected, but its not Trumps fault.
     
  4. Bush Lawyer

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    Rubbish. Your post was crap. It has been exposed as crap.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    lol. as if congress would've let him do that. I can see it now-

    'TRUMP MARTIAL LAW!!! RESIST!!!
    ...this is CNN.'

    Hell, back then half the folks on this board were suggesting that Cvirus was a Trump bioweapons attack on China in retribution for the trade war or that stopping flights from China was 'racist fearmongering'.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If that were so, you could challenge my position with a valid argument. You ended up supporting my argument while refuting your own by acknowledging that Covid does not care about party affiliation.
     
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    Australia could set the example by arresting your head of state.
     
  8. Bush Lawyer

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    The Head of State in Australia has SFA to do with management of stuff like that. All they do is cut ribbons, open Boy Scout etc fetes, reveal plaques and other ceremonial rubbish, you know ~ all the really important things.
     
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  9. Seth Bullock

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    Well hell,

    Arrest SOMEBODY in the government for heavens sake! Lock ‘em up!
     
  10. Bush Lawyer

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    Nah....we don't lock up the people who have done a great, fantastic job. We would lock up anyone whose negligence caused the the death of someone.
     
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    So nobody is responsible for Australia’s Covid deaths. Interesting....
     
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    No - he just dicked around and screwed the pooch

    https://www.justsecurity.org/69650/timeline-of-the-coronavirus-pandemic-and-u-s-response/
     
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  13. Bush Lawyer

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    Not one person urged that people should be put in harm's way, as opposed to what happened under Humpty.
     
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    Actually there has been an investigation - at least one minister was forced to resign and there will be a class action over the bungling of the hotel quarantine in Melbourne

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/co...s/news-story/e4b9867467ad2bf8899d6dc8ba60ed2e

    what makes you think WE would not hold the government accountable?

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-12/analysis-victoria-premier-daniel-andrews-coronavirus/12656602

    https://www.theage.com.au/politics/...olding-victoria-together-20200926-p55zis.html

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/cor...an-death-toll-passes-869-20200925-p55zg0.html

    and it is not over yet - we haven’t finished kicking arse over this
     
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    Another slow day down under?
     
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    Off topic flamebait
     
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    Continuous disrespectful insults by your buddy directed towards the President of the United States, i.e., my county, is flamebait and trolling to me. Rules 3, 4, and 5.
     
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    Herd immunity would prevent blame for political gain. Disgusting liberals.
     
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    So the leaders of every country on the planet are responsible for china virus deaths, that is, every leader except China's. What kind of punishment are you suggesting for the leaders in your country?
     
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    How do you centralize 50 state governments to all follow the same lockdown requirements that the central government demands them to follow? I’ll give you a hint, lady, you can’t. Trump tried to do it in April and got shut down by the 10th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. As a result, you had 50 state governments handling COVID-19 in 50 different ways. Please tell us what would have been the “proper” way to tell 50 different states to all do the same thing about COVID-19.
     
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    @Bush Lawyer
    Put 'em on TV wearing an orange jump suit. Then you've got standing.

    And while you're at it, get those criminal heads of state in UK, France, Spain, and Italy too.
     
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    He started calling for lockdowns right after the WHO declared COVID-19 as a global pandemic. I don’t know where you Australians are getting your U.S. news from, but it is reporting incorrect information to you.
     
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    That is a blatant lie and you know it. Prove to us that Trump caused the COVID-19 deaths of countless people. I want you to prove it. Now. Show us that smoking gun. Prove that ambulance chaser right, Bush Lawyer.
     
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    So the daily briefings were for what?
    Working with all the Governors through FEMA was what?
    Sending Medical ships to NY and California was for what?
    Setting up temporary hospitals was for what?
    Working with Companies to focus on PPE was for what?

    Face it Salon or the like told you "he did nothing" so months latter you are just going to parrot it while being they know what they are talking about have been banging their heads against the wall pointing it out to you.
     

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