Video Proof The Democrats Cheated

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  1. peacelate

    peacelate Banned

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    Yes, that one.

    Of the 1,626 duplicate ballots that were examined, a total of 9 issues were found. That's an accuracy rate of 99.45% which is pretty darn good. I know people expect 100%, but perfection simply is not feasible given the volume of ballots.

    It's also worth noting that none of the signatures were proven to be fraudulent.
     
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    Pretty much clear as day what the woman in the video was saying, that there is a separate process for validating the ballots and giving a total number. Of course if what she was saying was in fact out of order with the official process, this could easily be reviewed by the secretary of state's office, the DHS, the DOJ, or the state/federal courts. I'm not going to say that what the woman said was perfectly in accordance with the official process since I am not familiar with the specifics of the official process in Michigan, however if anything that was said in the video was out of order with said process, these concerns can easily be brought forward to the courts, or the state/federal investigators' offices who oversee/uphold the electoral process

    It would appear the OP would rather claim that this is an irregularity without actually providing any shred of information that would indicate there were any irregularities displayed in the video

    Good luck with that
     
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    balancing act Well-Known Member

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    Isn't that assuming a awful lot? How do you know they weren't going to validate the signatures in another step? So far, I can't find anything except the same clip on a couple websites, but seems like if it were that sinister, there would be some legal actions that would come up with this irrefutable video evidence.
     
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    "It"? What is on video provides no support for idiotic Trumpazoid fantasies of massive vote fraud.

    What is stunning is how some Republicans can not accept reality or outright refuse to do so and think accusing Democrats without evidence gets around it
     
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    Sez who?
    Wrong.
    That's not what he said. Inevitably.
     
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    Are you UNAWARE that people have very SIMILAR handwriting styles and it requires EXPERTIZE to distinguish one handwriting from another?

    That is why there is SIGNATURE VERIFICATION because it is EASY for someone to MATCH signatures to a SAMPLE.

    But ask 100 people to write the name John Smith and a great many will appear SIMILAR!

    In essence this is yet another BOGUS load of bovine excrement that has ZERO merit.

    Sad!
     
  7. TheImmortal

    TheImmortal Well-Known Member

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    Lol so he orders a review to determine if there are irregularities. Irregularities are found and you’re lauding him because his argument is that “even though irregularities were found, now I think the election is over anyway and we’re not going to look into any more irregularities” is ANYTHING except absurd political maneuvering is laughable.
     
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    No sir that’s out of 100 duplicates. Not 1,500. And there were 2 in that 100 sample that were wrong.

    “Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Randall Warner allowed her to inspect 100 mail-in ballots and 100 duplicate ballots in response, arguing the limited sample would be "enough to let us know if there's a red flag."

    It was among the duplicate ballots where inspectors found problems of "serious concern," according to a Wednesday filing from Arizona GOP lawyer Jack Wilenchik.”

    That’s a rate of 2% of the ballots. Which, if extrapolated out, is MORE than enough to cover the spread in Arizona.

    Now maybe you or someone else would like to explain to me why the judge would order the verification to try to find irregularities and then when he finds them in the magnitude which would be enough to change the outcome of the race, he simply ignores them and rejects their case.
     
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    If you don’t mind showing me where a county said they threw out those votes then I’d love to see it. But that doesn’t exist because they didn’t throw them out because no signature verification was done AFTER the audit. If there was provide a source for it.
     
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    Maybe you need to go back and read the thread. He’s asserting that in order for us to get a signature verification, we have to prove there are fraudulent votes. But we can’t do that without verifying signatures. Which he asserts we can’t verify signatures without proof. Which we can’t get proof unless we verify the signatures.

    That’s called a catch 22 and it’s a logical paradox and in this case used as an attempt to coverup fraud.
     
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    Which is why it goes to a court
     
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    But the courts aren’t throwing them out on any legitimate grounds other than standing.

    For instance the maricopa case we were just discussing. The judge orders a review. During the review enough of a percentage of the ballots were wrong, that if it were true across Arizona would be MORE than enough to overturn the results.

    After the judge sees that she dismisses the case. Not based upon any actual evidence, but SOLELY because she asserts they were “fishing” and she’s declaring the election over. And this is AFTER the review she ordered showed irregularities in the magnitude which would overturn the election.

    I mean for ****s sake they produced what they said would be produced and what the judge claimed she was looking for and then she just ignored it lol. Then she refused to allow them to look at other ballots. I mean what in the actual **** is that
     
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    How many cases have been thrown out now?
     
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    Every single one, save one exception, was thrown out on standing, not evidence, or it was thrown out by an Obama/Biden appointee. The one exception being a Bush era appointee.

    Furthermore the ones who Obama/Biden appointed simply ignored the evidence presented to them just like this Maricopa judge did.
     
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    Come on man. Be honest. You’re telling me you don’t find it odd a judge orders a review, finds the amount of fraud needed to overturn the election and then simply ignores it and declares the election over? You don’t think those ballots and signatures need to be poured over more closely?
     
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    FACTLESS allegations again? :eek:

    https://apnews.com/article/election...nia-lawsuits-15e9dfeede4ddee5086611f0dd7b63a0

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ter-fraud-lawsuit-rejected-pennsylvania-court

    And do you NEED a link PROVING that YOUR biggest LOSER*-in-Chief appointed THREE of the SCrOTUS justices who rejected BOTH of his cases?

    Sad!
     
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    No what’s sad was that pathetic post you pinned to the top of the page about how we should all come together and find common ground lol

    Ranjan made the argument that Trump couldn’t show he was harmed. OF COURSE HE CAN’T because they won’t allow signature verification. That’s the ENTIRE point
     
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    clennan Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Peacelate is 100% correct.

    The 100 ballots you're referring to was the initial batch. A further 1,526 were inspected for a total of 1,626 duplicated ballots. Of these, there were issues with 9 ballots - 0.55% of the 1,526. Or in other words, an accuracy rate of 99.45%.

    Of the 9 ballots, net gain to Trump was 6 votes = 0.369% of 1,626. Extrapolated, this is 195 out of 52,897 duplicated ballots.

    Net gain to Biden was 33 votes. 195 - 33 = difference of 162 votes.

    No where near enough to "cover the spread in Arizona" of 10,457 votes.

    https://eu.azcentral.com/story/news...t-overturn-state-election-results/3821578001/
     
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    zalekbloom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have the ultimate proof the elections were rigged: In my dream I was told by Abraham Lincoln that Democrats cheated.

    Yes, I know United States Attorney General William Barr said there is no evidence of widespread voter fraud that could change the outcome of the 2020 election, SCOTUS rejected suit seeking to subvert election, judges in almost 50 suits did not find any proof of the election fraud, the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) declared there was no election fraud, but:
    I HAD A DREAM WHICH CONFIRMS PRESIDENT TRUMP ALLEGATIONS!

    So who do you trust - President Trump and President Lincoln from my dream or United States Attorney General William Barr, SCOTUS, US State and Federal judges, the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA)?

    If you are smart the answer is very simple!
     
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    Duly noted that you could NOT deal with the FACTS that it was YOUR biggest LOSER*-in-Chief's judicial APPOINTEES that have REJECTED his BOGUS lawsuits.

    Common ground would be AGREEING that Biden WON the election FAIR and SQUARE and to ACCEPT that the COURTS, including CONSERVATIVE judges, have ALL agreed that there is NO FRAUD that would have any impact on the outcome.
     
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    The recount had nothing to do with Central Lake Township. It was conducted in Kearney Township for the whole of Antrim County, which had a total of 15,718 votes, of which the 138 allegedly suspicious ballots = 0.87%.
     
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    The possible commission of one crime in one place does not imply the same crime was committed anywhere else.

    While I agree the video is suggestive of a crime, we don't know that these votes were ultimately included in the count.
     
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    Signature verification has already been done, and it is signature verification (among other things) that determines the legitimacy of ballots.

    Handwriting style is utterly irrelevant. The fact that some counters at an audit think it looks similar is not a reason to believe that signature verification was not conducted properly. It simply means that, in their eyes, some writing looks similar. But that doesn't matter. There is no requirement that voters have markedly different writing styles. Signatures, not writing styles determine the validity of a ballot.

    Bottom line, voters are not disenfranchised because their handwriting happens to look similar, in some people's eyes, to other people's.
     
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    I looked a little, but you're side stepping the point here. Maybe they did a check, maybe there isn't anything wrong with what was happening. If there were, I would think there would be some news about it.
    But you're the one who is proposing that there were nefarious actions here, but you haven't a shred of proof that there are. It's not up to me to prove it wasn't. Where's the article about how the local election board is looking into this, or Michigan officials investigating, or something. Pretty soon you're going to get to the point where "it's all of 'em". Hate to tell you, but when you get there, the problem is a lot closer to home.
    We should rely on what the local authorities did. Who knows, maybe they were votes for Trump that shouldn't have been counted? At some point, there has to be a level of trust, or life would be unbearable.
    The point is we don't know, so there isn't a great reason to assume the worst, or the most convenient.
     
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    I don't see that anywhere in the thread.
    :lol:
     

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