Video Proof The Democrats Cheated

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Recounting illegal ballots proves nothing.
     
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    Evidence that they are illegal...?

    Of course not.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You need an audit for that. Recounting is not an audit.
     
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    No you don't. You just need some evidence. An audit would provide good evidence, but it is not the only kind of evidence there could be. We have seen lots of Trumpazoid attempts to provide evidence of vote fraud without audits, and they have all turned out to be nothing burgers.
    But when the recount -- which is done over a longer period of time, without the confusion of election day, and under closer scrutiny -- matches the original count, that is good evidence that there was nothing wrong with the original count.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Like this hand count of the machine count in Antrim county?

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  6. TheImmortal

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    If trump gets 6 votes per 1600 ballots in Arizona he wins.
    6/1600 = .375%
    Arizona had 3,200,000 ballots. X .00375 = 12,000. What was the difference in Arizona again? And that’s assuming no other instances of fraud occurred
     
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    That is only an acceptable outcome if a signature verification is done. But your insistence on “finding common ground” after your vitriol has spewed from your mouth for four years is hilarious.
     
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    I agree completely. But then the logical resolution to knowing if it occurred elsewhere is signature verification in those other precincts. Wouldn’t you agree?
     
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    Nobody is even suggesting that. I’m suggesting that there’s enough of a legitimate question to justify a signature verification audit of the envelopes.
     
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    I don’t WANT to assume the worst. I want a hand verification of signatures on envelopes in front of partial parties to VERIFY conclusively that either there were or there were not nefarious actions being taken. There should be as many unique signatures on envelopes, which match voter record signatures, that equal to the number of mail in ballots. If not, there’s a problem. Most states supposedly did this, while counting ballots, within a matter of days. It shouldn’t take too long to do it again.

    And to be quite honest, I don’t understand how ANYONE, who doesn’t have something to hide, would consider that an unreasonable request.
     
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    Then we are in agreement. I don't mind the signatures being verified, by people who know what they are doing. Don't forget that a awful lot of the people who are doing this are volunteers, also.
    Two points, if I may,
    1. There's is nothing about the video clip that is evidence of foul play. Knowing that it is out in the world for all to see, it is hard to believe there isn't someone looking into it, and there should be.
    2. Unfortunately, people saying this is proof that they are cheating are ignorantly putting some of these workers at risk. One worker, volunteer, in Georgia was only doing his job and after social media got ahold of the video, he had to endure death threats. Facts should be used when accusing, and opinions should be what they are, opinions.
     
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    <yawn> The original erroneous election night count resulted from a computer system user error on the part of Antrim County Clerk Sheryl Guy, a Republican who has been with the office for 41 years, and has admitted it was her own error. It was caught almost immediately, and corrected in both the official count (which Trump won handily) and the subsequent hand-counted audit:

    https://www.factcheck.org/2020/12/audit-in-michigan-county-refutes-dominion-conspiracy-theory/

    So another nothing burger deluxe, no cheese.
     
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    Only legal ballots were counted, and when they were re-counted, the whole theory about votes being switched fell apart. Not a single trace of tens of thousands of ballots being switched to Biden.
     
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    Incorrect. You cannot apply what they found for the duplicated ballots (ballots that were filled out incorrectly by staffers) to all of the ballots.
     
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    Not just based on what little we know about this one situation. The suspicion of a possible crime in one place doesn't imply there was necessarily a crime. Is there some innocent explanation? Was there a misunderstanding? What do the officials at that site have to say?

    After investigating that incident, if a crime is found, it's then necessary to determine if these votes were counted. If they were, then the signature verification process at this site needs scrutiny, and if there were flaws, this needs to be examined and addressed statewide.

    I'm perfectly fine with investigating these things, so that process improvements can be made in the future, but obviously - it's moot for the current election. Electors have voted.
     
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    Bull. One SCOTUS decision =/= all were dismissed because of standing.
     
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    Bull. One case was dismissed because of standing.
     
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    So dead people voting is legal? Fascinating.
     
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    Can you provide credible factual evidence of the number of dead people who voted?
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There are lists that others have put together but without an audit by government nothing will be done.
     
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    So no, you can’t provide any such evidence. I figured as much.
     
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    Tons of evidence that the biased will ignore for politics. The security of our elections should concern everyone.
     
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    Yet you, nor anyone else, can ever provide any such evidence. Hahaha too funny.
     
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    Tons of evidence that will not be seen by people with blinders on.
     
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    I get it...no actual evidence.
     
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