In Our Hearts We Know Trump Won

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  1. Daniel Light

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    Trump was toxic before he ever took office. Try again.
     
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    They're already tossing around their "Nice country you got there, it'd be a shame if something happened to it" vague threats of terrorist violence if they don't get their way.

    Not that they'd have any responsibility for the violence, of course. In their cult minds, a righteous revolt against the tyrants will just spring up spontaneously, and their constant calls for violence will have nothing at all to do with it.
     
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    And for anyone's info, The Deep State hasn't slowed the EARLY and LATE stage developments of Moderna's and Pfizer's mRNA vaccines, and both vaccine's Phase 2 and 3 clinical trials were conducted BY THE BOOK, and we all know Trump isn't/has never been a "By The Book'' guy.

    ONCE AGAIN, existing strategic alliances between Moderna and several U.S. Agencies ACCELERATED the early-stage development of its mRNA vaccine, thus, from finalizing its sequence to its Phase 2 clinical trial. In addition, said early-stage development was FINANCED by Bill Gates.

    Moderna's early-stage development KEY players/Buddy system;

    Moncef Slaoui, back then, a Moderna Director
    Bill Gates; a Moderna Partner, and mRNA Promoter/Financier
    Francis Collins; NIH, and his researchers
    Rick Bright; back then, BARDA's Director, and his researchers
    Anthony Fauci, NIAID

    Trump????????......Trump had nothing to do with Moderna's early-stage development.

    Anyone, REFUTE!
     
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    I don't understand what convinces you of this. Your steely-eyed conviction has to completely ignore too many things that point directly to the opposite conclusion: Trump lost.

    Trump's approval rating never made 50%, ever. He wallowed between 39-43% for his entire presidency.

    Trump lost the popular vote in 2016 by millions of votes. Millions. He lost 2020 by even more millions of votes. (74m ~ 46% of 155m, right in line with his approval rating... Crazy right???)

    Trump spent his entire presidency appealing to his base and vilifying everyone else. His presidency is the definition of divisiveness.

    Trump had zero discipline in his campaign. He had issues he could have stuck to and won with -Judicial success, Warp Speed, etc.,... but he chased his base.

    Trump convinced people -like you- that crowd size during a pandemic was an accurate measure of support for and against. In a word: Crazy.

    Trump's handling (re: total savage bungling) of the COVID response.

    You're setting all of this aside and throwing your lot in with the idea that a massive multi-national, public/private, bipartisan, and perfectly orchestrated cabal of actors stole the election. This notion has been laughed out of every level of court by every type of judge over the course of more than 50 different abhorrent lawsuits built around the Powell/Giuliani delusion chamber that can't get its facts straight let alone its spelling.

    Honestly. Why do you accept this?
     
  5. FoxHastings

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    "In Our Hearts We Know Trump Won".....should've used their brains like everyone else did :)...
     
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    Seems they are going with "feelz"
     
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    There is no conspiracy here.

    Its pretty simple. 80 million Americans wanted a president who isnt a dick.
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump's handicap is Trump's personality, not his policies. His policies did a lot of good for the country.

    Just wait 'til you see what happens under "nice" Joe Biden. The real damage to the country will only be containable if the Republicans win the Georgia runoffs.
     
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    Biden has always been one. You'll see that, unless corporate media can manage to make him a silent basement president.
     
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    Maybe. I se him as a man of Empathy though. A word our current president has no understanding of the meaning of.
     
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    Media painted Trump as having no empathy. If you only listen to left-wing corporate media and DNC leaders, that's all they told you to think.

    Similarly, they've painted Biden as some kind, loving grandpa. He loves his flesh and blood grandchildren no doubt, even if he can't remember their name or how many there are.

    Biden doesn't love you. Wait and see.

    The Democrat Party lost sight of what worked for them a few decades ago. Trump helped the right find that key. Policies which show concern for a struggling American working class is real empathy.
     
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    Riiiiight. Because we do this every election, right? And incumbents who lose don't retire gracefully, they begin campaigning immediately, right? Because it's the policy, not the personality.

    Cult worship, in my humble opinion of course.
     
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    We've basically been through what "happens" under Biden - it's Obama 2.0.
    We had a positive GDP for 7 straight years, housing prices went up 30%, and unemployment dropped from 9% to under 5%. Not great numbers, but
    slow and steady returns. No gun restriction laws were passed. I can live with that.
     
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    Your "hearts" aren't a substitute for evidence. The facts don't care about your feelings. Play make-believe all you want,
     
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    The only "policy" that Trump signed was the Tax Bill - and guess what - his asinine actions chased off the entire crew of staff members who wrote that
    bill and got it through Congress. Trump helped nothing. And his Covid actions have undermined any of your "empathy" arguments.

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    You folks just spent four years burning down the nation, spare us.
     
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    And broken brains...
     
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    GW signed tax cuts as well. He doesn't have a cult following.

    Nah, it's 100% personality. Policy. Lmao.
     
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    I accepted Trump's loss the day after election.

    Trump is not the Messiah. Trump is not irreplaceable.

    I am grateful to President Trump for:

    1) Supporting Free Speech.
    2) Supporting Presumption of Innocence

    I disagree with President Trump:

    1) Guns -- 34,000 lives lost per year in USA
    2) American Nationalism and Racism
    3) Opposition to Welfare
     
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    A landslide??? Lol, holy cow that’s delusional.
    Trumps loyal followers did not outnumber the Americans who decided to vote him out of office. It’s as simple as that.
     
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    Then why would you want to reelect trump, he was obviously incompetent since he couldn't prevent the burning.
     
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    3 months in a few cities. Exaggerate much?
     
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    The NATION was burned down? Damn...how did I miss that?
     
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    Spooky told you it was "you folks". You were personally involved. She's been following you around. That's....spooky.
     
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    No, it's time to stop the squeal.
    I understand you're despondent about your dear leader's loss.
    But the best man won, so I'm very happy.
    It sort of evens out cosmically, eh?

    Here's a fond look back at one reason why he lost.
    I saw it and it motivated me to vote even more.
    Hubris is a dangerous drug.
     
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