Why Japan has practically no gun violence

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Japan has about 1/3 the population of the U.S., yet gun violence is practically nil.

    So, the question is why?

     
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    That and they are more disciplined, respectful of others and country oriented and loyal to it.. Sort of like worker bee's and ant colonies they live for the collective..
     
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    In other words they’re not self-centered a holes like many Americans.
    That being said, no I do not want anymore gun control in the US.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Naturally, you'd find a way to put a negative spin on it.

    I'll file that one in the 'glass-is-half-empty cynic' file.
     
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    Naturally, I learn from others here, mostly the left really ;)
     
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    Obviously since they have virtually no guns. There are other reasons, but that is basic.

    However, just because having no guns solves the problem for Japan, it does not solve the problem for the US. We already have guns. There is virtually no way to get rid of them. Simply speaking, the only people who would willingly give up their guns are law abiding citizens> That leaves the lawless with their guns and the majority of the rest of us at their mercy. It would take decades to solve this problem.

    As soon as you find a way around this be sure and let us know.
     
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    They don't worship their guns as Americans do, and we have the daily gun deaths to prove it. WE LIVE IN A PERPETUAL WAR ZONE IN THE GOOD OLD USA.
     
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    That does no solve any problems. How do we get there from here?

    By the way. I served a year in a war zone. The US is not a war zone.
     
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    It certainly seems it must be a “war zone” to those who feel the need to conceal carry.
    And to those who have reading comprehension issues, no, I’m not saying people shouldn’t conceal carry. Carry as many guns as you need to feel safe. Everyone should feel safe when they leave their home to go out in public.
     
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    First off, why would anyone assume that any gun laws intended to restrict and curb our gun violence would happen overnight? Now I'm not for a total gun ban, but should we look to that as a means to solve it, it would be with a plan that would take at least a decade to fully realize, that is how other countries addressed a transition.

    It also addresses your, "that leaves the lawless with their guns and the majority of the rest of us at their mercy." When you consider the sources of where these criminals get their guns, primarily from burglaries and from black market sources, many of whom have convoluted ties with the arms sector, it would in time make a dent. Guns don't last forever unless you never take them out of the box and use them.
     
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    Lets take a look at the problem from a broad view rather than trying to view it bit by bit.

    Over the years, mainly because of inheritance, I ended up with around eighteen guns. I have given away a number of them to relatives. I have roughly a dozen depending on how you count some which are pretty much worthless for defense. They are antiques or damaged and hanging above the fireplace mantle.

    Law enforcement has no knowledge of how many guns I have. As far as I know, they have never seen me carry a gun. So they come down with a law that says I have to get rid of my guns. How will they enforce it? Are they going to make no notice inspections of homes to make sure we have no guns.

    Telling us to get rid of our guns is virtually unenforceable. Who do you think will end up the guns in the long run?

    As far as "guns don't last forever", actually they pretty much do. I own a 22 rifle which I received as a present on my thirteenth birthday. That was seventy years ago. It works as well now as it did when it was new.
     
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    I don't live in Japan, but if a random suburban person acquired a gun in my society/community, they would instantly lose all their friends. It would be considered an extreme sort of personal and social dysfunction, and markedly hostile and weird.
     
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    Countries that have made this transition already used a gun-buyback program. Granted, you may not want to sell your guns....now, but at some future time that money may come in handy rather than the gun. But let's say you never have that type of financial situation, you would still have your gun, but for all intents and purposes, you would not be able to use it, unless of course, your nearest neighbor is over 3 miles away.

    So "enforcement" would only happen if you have an incident where the police are called to your home. Enforcement would be an after-the-fact matter, not the Federalies storming down your front door, which is basically the wet dream of every gun nut, and that is not going to happen.
     
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    They are more disciplined and less over-entitled feeling due to their common sense education..the exact OPPOSITE of what the left is currently pushing in American "education"
     
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    How would you address the ability to manufacture new guns at will by almost anyone? Especially well funded criminal organizations. Keeping guns out of the hands of gangs and organized crime would be as effective as keeping illicit drugs out of gangs and organized crime.
     
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    Must be the violent video games. /S The Japanese would never play video games. Would they? :confusion:
     
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    Child abuse, elder abuse, domestic violence and suicides don't involve a gun. I wish them well with their issues.

    Back here in the US, we have more gun laws, more gun free zones, and more people taking antidepressants that list "suicidal thoughts or actions" as side effects.

    There is much of their culture I admire. Respect for one another is a big one. How far would you go with gun laws? Would you disarm armored car security guards?
     
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    Blame the education system all you like but the reality is over-entitlement starts in the home. People started being more like “friends” with their kids instead of parents. Giving their kids everything they asked for, never disciplining them and telling them nothing was ever their fault. The entitlement generation is the fault of crappy parenting.
     
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    I live out in the country. I am not concerned with law enforcement breaking out my door. It is simply not going to happen. It would be an unenforceable law, the worse kind of law.

    Besides, that gun which I used to shoot the intruder does not belong to me. He brought it in and laid it down where I could get ahold of it.
     
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    They're globally a people that aim their violence more inward, and they have an extremely high suicide rate.
    Furthermore, it's on a cultural level a vastly different country.
     
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    Single-digit annual gun deaths in Japan compared to 33,000 in the third-world USA, eh

    Looks like the Japanese smashed our gun loons' (half-cocked) hypothesis that more guns make us safer...
     
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    I'm assuming you're talking about printed plastic guns. Sure, it's possible, but I don't see that as the biggest issue now, but please feel free to post about any trends in that direction.
     
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    As long as you fire it on your property and don't have any incidents where the police would be called to your home, the law would be considered effective in your scenario.
     
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    In other words we are going to have a law where no one can own a gun except for a few of where it is still Ok for us to own a gun.
     
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    You must have missed this part in my original post to you...
    In fact, no one in the United States is really talking about a total gun ban. However, we have seen a continual pattern with these gun incidents and it's almost always a weapon that falls under the description of an "assault weapon".
     

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