Which country is the greatest threat to the Western world?

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Which country is the biggest threat to the Western world?

  1. China

    34 vote(s)
    61.8%
  2. Russia

    4 vote(s)
    7.3%
  3. Iran

    1 vote(s)
    1.8%
  4. North Korea

    1 vote(s)
    1.8%
  5. Other?

    15 vote(s)
    27.3%
  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Why does that have to happen?

    I've never understood why what religion we are matters to God. God speaks to each of us in our own hearts, why should our religion matter to him?
     
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    Pootin is of course like a mafia boss. His country has a weak economy and is dependent on crime.

    While China is a Marxist dictatorship, it can be a good trading partner. I buy WiFi modules and RF chipsets from China, for which I would have to pay five to ten times as much in Western countries.

    I, therefore, think that China isn't a threat to the West in the medium term. They benefit from us and we from them. On the other hand, Russia is like a cornered predator, which makes the Pootin regime particularly dangerous and unpredictable.
     
  3. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    On one level... .divisions within Christianity tend to lead to democracy.......
    Baptists know that being under the thumb of Anglicans, Episcopalians or Roman Catholics can be very hazardous so.... .they tended to believe in the government having no one all powerful church.
     
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    Interesting!

    I did not know about that particular historical detail.


    ..... but paying off the national debt of Canada and the USA by using Social Credit Economic Theory would. It would make it possible to give Canadians five hundred dollars per month UNCONDITIONALLY but it would be taxable.......... forgive the entire eighteen billion dollars per month due to it going to all Canadians..... then as it is taxed back into the treasury.... .which happens as it turns over about three times in the economy then......... this puts eighteen billion dollars per month first toward the deficit and later toward the national debt and later after the national debt is paid off it puts eighteen billion dollars in the black into the Canadian economy........... This is why BigBanking fought the province of Alberta so vehemently during the Great Depression when Bible Bill Aberhardt was Premier.

    We are in a truly desperate situation at this time considering the information that is coming out about the long term, (two year), plans being discussed about the future of Canada


    https://rumble.com/vc0aax-canada-te...4dgjSQnrJkHiQ9Z_HdmV-VOvtJNbDJuOzP_YQkNTr8dQg



    My suggested response to this is a little different than most would come up with......

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-income-dramatically-reduce-abortions.556917/

     
  5. DennisTate

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    Fascinating idea..... you could well be correct!

    Since 1972 Russia behaved terribly but........ the situation is changing there and President Putin does really hate the eight thousand or so wealthiest people on earth and the Ponzi schemes that they may have put in motion that significantly control the world economy.

    In 1972 though Russia did set in motion something terribly dangerous....


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...nd-its-influence-on-mideast-terrorism.505610/


    Even this step could turn out to be important......

    Russia's Government talks about Release of E.T. data. (Part 2)

     
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    What was the alternative?
     
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    How was it normal? You had a one party state?
     
  8. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    True, but if you study the history you will see that the divisions come about because one Church or another tries to enforce the idea that only they can speak for God, whereas NO ONE can speak for God, he speaks to each of us alone.

    This is a problem I've always had with missionary work and proselytizing. To me religion is very personal and private, a part of our inner lives diminished by sharing
     
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    Yes..... the mass migration of refugees to Europe and to North America seems to have been planned by some very wealthy people who wanted to create instability in all western democracies.

    One of the posters here on the forum stated that he saw first hand that some terribly unwise and unethical acts had been done to seemingly deliberately destabilize the entire Middle East so that the refugee crisis to the world's democracies would be created.

    Could ISIS have been stopped at the border of Iraq if.....

    ..... on the other hand.... philosophically........ I have to think that this promise is related to all of this as well......

    Jeremiah 16:14
    Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that it shall no more be said, The LORD liveth, that brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;
    But, The LORD liveth, that brought up the children of Israel from the land of the north, and from all the lands whither he had driven them: and I will bring them again into their land that I gave unto their fathers."

    Is an invisible extremely powerful Intelligence setting up another Exodus from the north...... was the Exodus from Russia to Israel insufficient???????

     
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    @DennisTate I think more that the west has an unconscious death wish, it's also organized by the richest to lower the cost of work, but there it go much beyond.
     
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    Oppression is normal in communist countries.
    Obviously, the ruling caste has brought you to a point where you didn't recognize that you're only a slave. That's the maximum that a totalitarian state can achieve: fooling people that they are free. :(
     
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    Only because they were invaded
    while exporting essential war materials to them.


    I bet you slept through history class ;)
     
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    In USSR 1980, we were much more free then anyone on an American campus in 2020.
     
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    Daily life in USSR 1980 was normal.
     
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    What was your association with the USSR back in 1980?
    Speak clearly into the microphone, please.
     
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    Western humans are the greatest threat. When they opened the gates, gave up sovereignty, took up obesity, and started dismantling their own culture - they basically declared themselves the world's (fat) b!tch.
     
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    Case in point. The dismantling of the very idea of the West.
     
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    The West has just had it too good and too easy, for too long. It makes us vain and stupid. We start to think vanities are important, because we can't remember what starvation feels like. Quite a few civilisations have fallen the same way.
     
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    I lived in USSR from my birth (1970) to 1983.
     
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    Was the West anything like Robin Williams "Moscow on the Hudson"?
    The coffee scene


    My ex-wife was Russian.
    Bigoted against any Asiatic features, even associated with Latinos.
    Loved Black people.
    Did not like Germans and told me how Germans killed off all their
    beautiful women and that's why German women are ugly today.

    We use to write commercials jokingly for USSR coffee.
    "If you have the best brand, who needs choices. Buy Red Star coffee.".

    How do you like us having Stalin's daughter and Khrushchev's son?
    I remember K's road trip across America. Ending in Hollywood with the studio owners giving him a roast, televised live. Good spirited.


    Moi :oldman:


    Beware :flagcanada:
    Russia's Polar Partner.

    It isn't just geography.
     
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    Pointing out that it’s a social construct is dismantling the concept of the west yes.
     
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    A threat to what of the Western World?

    The Western world does most of the consuming. So, without the Western world and it's consumerism, the economies of each country would be much much smaller.
    And wealth would be less.
     
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    Come noon on January 20, 2021, that very well will be true.
     
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    China, of course, for all the reasons the OP has listed. I do praise Trump for standing up to China, and I am afraid Biden won't do as much, although Biden is less pro-China than you all assume.

    Biden and his aides have signaled that they will not return to the wishful pre-Trump policy toward China (even though several of them helped shape that policy in the Obama administration). “The United States does need to get tough with China,” Biden wrote in Foreign Affairs magazine in January.

    To do so, they will use diplomacy. Antony Blinken, Biden’s choice for secretary of state, said this summer: “We are in a competition with China … We need to rally our allies and partners instead of alienating them to deal with some of the challenges that China poses.”
     
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    Yeah, there's a difference between being no platformed and being hauled off to the gulag!
     

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