Capitol is on lockdown as pro-Trump demonstrators try to break into the building

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because she is a white female. Only black lives matter to Biden.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Her participation in this riot shows she was not "a fine citizen." Nevertheless, that doesn't mean the shooting was justified.
     
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    The lower chamber is not a public area, it is considered sterile and secured.
     
  4. Montegriffo

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    So, if a person smashed her way into your house would you assume she was a fine citizen and offer her a cup of tea or would you shoot her?
     
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    She was more like a useful idiot going with the mob hoping to see herself on the news, she did get half that right.
     
  6. grapeape

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    It was opened on that day. It was clearly stated in almost every article. and it also said that 905 of the protestors stayed in the public areas.

    There was one article that said that one state senator claimed that people broke in and that some got in thru windows, but he later publicly rescinded that statement
     
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    Now seeing as your talking legal.
    No court so far (how many have there been around and about?) has found anything wrong with the election.
    So this hero was making a fuss because the law was against her.
    A 'hero of democracy' as long as that democracy doesn't include the rule of law huh?
     
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    Get a clue the lower chamber was locked down and closing out a session, the Rotunda was open to the public and in the process of being locked down.
     
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    George Floyd was falsely arrested, no $20 counterfeit ever found... he was falsely accused

    George Floyd was in handcuffs and slowly killed by a cop.... if that had happened to this woman, I would say it was wrong too, that is NOT what happened here

    there is a huge difference between a cop killing someone in the act of breaking into a federal building and killing someone on the ground in handcuffs over many minutes
     
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    BS. Biden will strive to be a president for all Americans.
     
  11. Bluesguy

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    Yes the police especially the capital police were caught off guard, Trump rallies have never engaged in violence before we expect this from left wing protest and rallies and occupations. But they should have been on a much higher alert and we need to take a hard look at capital security.

    We can't ignore the past and was happened to bring it to this level. I'm listening the DC officials rights now and their reactions and characterizations and threats to democracy and on and on and think back to when it was Antifa and BLM engaged in their anarchy and was excused and allowed to happen. The mayor just said she is upset because the DC police officers were put in danger, well they were during the left wing anarchy and where was she then. Defund the police. And of course she is politizing by declaring this is why DC should get statehood which has nothing to do with this.

    Where have all these people been? Have you noted that all the Republicans are unequivocally denouncing this? Just as they the last 4 years and in particular the last year? Suddenly NOW the Dem politicians and left wing talking heads rise up against "mostly peaceful protesters". Where have they been when all the cities were under attack including police departments and federal buildings while private businesses were being looted and burned down. Did you notice there was no such looting and arson and attacks on private citizens yesterday. Did we see police cars burning in the streets? Were rocks and bricks and urine and feces being thrown on police?

    The DC chief of police is calling for everyone to watch the videos and help identify people who were protesting and violating the law so they can be arrested and fully prosecuted and I like others on the right have called for full prosecutions of those who violated the law. Where was that back when Antifa and BLM anarchy was going on?

    So the question remains what do we do now? How do we stop this anarchy and will those efforts be directed only at right wing protest? Remember when our soon to be Vice-President was calling for no bail or raising money to bail out the left wing protesters, is she doing the here?
     
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  12. fifthofnovember

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    Strange how when BLM directed their rage toward burning down local businesses (instead of directing it toward the appropriate people, as the Trump supporters did), the media said it was totally cool and justified. But whatever you do, don't take your grievance to the actual government.
     
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    Don't burn down a local business. Don't assault police and violently storm the Capitol to prevent the peaceful transition of power. There is nothing appropriate about this.

    This is not the appropriate way to take your grievance to government.
     
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    I tend to agree, hence my earlier remarks that the only good thing is that lawmakers received a taste of what a mob can do, and perhaps they will have a change of heart the next time business owners are being looted and burned, media very much included in this as well. during the summer of mostly peaceful protests, business owners were punished and had their property destroyed or stolen and did NOTHING to deserve it. I would have felt the same way if news offices were damaged, they need to understand the devastating impact so they can report it accurately next time.
     
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    Were you saying this in the months of rioting that preceded this?
     
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    And of course the right will be held to the letter of the law, be held to "do what's appropriate". The right will be met with deadly force for their infractions, while the left will be allowed to occupy city blocks for months while police stand down.

    Edit: I'm sorry, did I say Will Be? I meant Was.
     
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    I've called other rioters thugs and fascists. Now that the whataboutism is over, can we talk about this attempted coup?
     
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    It took 4 years but it appears to have been successful.
     
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    I have expressed it quite clearly why do you keep asking? And I don't do things out of habit and you can scroll back through my posting history to see that I have criticized Trump on many fronts especially his mouth.

    Honest question were you condemning the Antifa and BLM anarchy and condemning the politicians who offered supported like soon to be VP Harris? Where is YOUR line, what is your consistency here?
     
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    The your debate is with the news reporting. Im copying what they wrote
     
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    So you aren't familiar with the court filing by the City of Detroit?
     
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    And we have not heard the name of the shooter which is strange being that it has always been made public during America's 'Troubles'.
     
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    Quote me ever supporting any of that. Or, if you are honest enough to shelve the whataboutism, can we talk about the topic?

    One rightwing rioter was met with lethal force. It may have been a mistake or it may have been intentional. What I do know is that she was part of a mob storming the building to try to overturn our democracy. A mob that included attacks on police, gallows and pipe bombs. She was trying to break into a room that had been barricaded. The violent rioters were trying to break down this barricade. She was the first to try to crawl through the window.
     
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    Ah, you seem to think voting is a coup, whereas I'm talking about the actual attempt at one that took place at the Capitol and that you appear incapable of discussing.
     
  25. Bluesguy

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    Stop with the hyperbole if you were to arrest Trump then there are LOTS of other politician's who could be arrest too. And yes he just **** in his sweatpants and that will be his outgoing legacy and not a good one.

    So where you saying this during the Antifa and BLM anarchy? When they were occupying parts of DC committing crimes? See I've been consistent about the anarchy we have been seeing. The question is have you or is this a sudden epiphany for you?
     
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