As rioters stormed the Capitol, Trump was reportedly telling people he was glad Perdue and Loeffler

Once again, it turns of that for Trump it was always all about him, and no one else.

As rioters stormed the Capitol, Trump was reportedly telling people he was glad Perdue and Loeffler lost their Georgia Senate seats, calling them not loyal enough
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...-them-not-loyal-enough/ar-BB1cyvAE?li=BBnb7Kz

• "The president was telling people today that he was happy Loeffler and Perdue lost," Haberman tweeted. "He said they didn't defend him enough."
• A mob of Trump supporters stormed and ransacked the US Capitol building on Wednesday, and multiple reports say Trump was highly resistant to condemning them.

 

I believe it, as he actively jettisoned their campaigns.

 

This article does not see them as quite so violent and does make a good point. He says only 5 were found with Guns and those who got inside were more like excited tourists taking pictures than terrifying revolutionaries. He goes on to suggest valid reasons why this happened

Capitol Incident a Dress Rehearsal – Consortiumnews

This is the other side and should not be forgotten amongst anger against people's values or lack of them. If the situation was not as it is, it would be impossible to get people to join a Trump style Presidency never mind believe him when he says he is God.

 

Trump's more impassioned supporters - the whites who believe everything Trump says because he says it, and who talk about secession and a white ethno state - are similar to the blacks who rioted when George Floyd died in one respect: the better paying jobs they have the intelligence to learn how to do are being replaced by industrial robots and computers. Automation and the computer technology it depends on can perform those jobs faster, better, and less expensively than they can. This is why the stock market has continued to rise even when COVID-19 led to recession levels of unemployment. Millions of Americans are no longer necessary to the economy. They are angry about it. This is also the reason for deaths of despair among marginally employable white men from alcoholism and drug addiction. The unionized production jobs, that used to provide them with reasonably good incomes, no longer exist.

 

Quantum computing, artificial intelligence, and high-speed wireless are going to put tens of millions out of work. Job losses won't be limited to working class folks.

Disagree here. Quantitative easing designed to inflate asset values is responsible.

This is the problem...



Real wages have been flat for four decades.

 

Why does high speed wireless have anything to do with jobs? Who depends on slow wireless?

Printing new money makes the existing money less valuable. Isn't money an asset?

Except for the last four years as your graph indicates.

 

Amazing how a full blown insurrection can hinge on a huge steaming pile of trumpian bullshit pandering to the lowest common denominator of po ' white grievance.

the terrorist clowns who stormed the Capitol thought Wednesday was the start of The Storm. I'd rather hope that this is the start of the stomp on these idiots heads.

 

Well you can hope and I heard today that Trump was dissing them and calling them the Mob as he was understanding how much this is coming back to him. There are a lot more suffering people than those who went into Congress thinking they were big. As was pointed out by Conservative Democrat there also is a massive rise in wmc men falling into drugs, alcoholism and suicide because they cannot provide for their family as they would like and they believe because of the American Dream, it is all their own fault. As was also said the unemployment in the US with technology is as we are moving now, going to keep on going up. Since the 1970's and with the introduction of neo liberalism there has been a massive movement of wealth from the bottom 90% to the top 10% and the US is one of the countries which feels this most strongly

Share of Wealth Held by the Bottom 90% (politicsthatwork.com)

Inequality throughout countries in the West keeps growing and growing. In ordinary times you are going to find only a very small number of people who will move towards the far right. There was a study done which discovered that there was a proportion of society which in good times could be quite liberal, did not have too many difficulties in accepting the norms of society and accepted differences...but when a difficult time comes along, economic difficulties and possibly some fear being made to sound worse than it is for instance terrorism or immigrants, some of these people are prepared to accept an authoritarian leader and let go of all the norms of society to the extent of killing opposition, as Putin has done so that they feel safe. For whatever reason part of this appears to be that they tend to get frightened more quickly than Liberals but at this point of time we are very much in such a situation which is going to get worse with climate change and the already spoken about lack of Jobs. To all this there are a tiny proportion of society which own almost all the wealth. Some say they are the 1.% but others say no they are the 0.1% and each year the number of people owning the same wealth as half the world gets less.

Change is needed. If people do not have the ability to provide for themselves and their families and have a little left over, I would expect social upheaval in the US. Fascists know how to use this. They talk like Trump. They pretend they are going to give them what they want in order to get them to do what they want though of course they have no intention of really helping them. That is what Trump did. He manipulated people to do what he wanted but he never would have been able to do this if people in the US had not been in want as they are now. We need a new economic system. Those who have been arrested must get their punishment but if changes are not made by Government to deal with the changes the people have to deal with...then this will be an ongoing thing. That is what the quote I put in was suggesting and it certainly is something that the American left have been saying for some years now. They say that even if the Democrats get in, unless they acknowledge the situation as it is and do things to change it, more discontent will grow and whether it is the Democrats or the Republoicans, the US will become Fascist. Political Theorists are talking about us moving into a new form of Feudalism.

 

People will always be needed to design and program the computers that do that. As time goes on one will need a higher IQ to have a secure job in high technology. A growing percentage of the population will become unemployable.

 

This could be a Democrat issue. Nevertheless, most whites do not trust the Democrats on racial issues. For most people most of the time loyalties of race, nation, and ethnicity are stronger than loyalties of class. When race is the issue Republicans win.

 

High speed wireless will allow super fast computers to control devices like cars, trucks, trains, aircraft, everything in your house, computers--the list goes on and on.

That's why the house I bought in 1984 is worth 8.6 times as much today.

No.

It's still a problem. You can make your own graph at the St. Louis Fed.

 

To be rather blunt: The man is mentally deranged.

As the riots took place, he was walking around happy and excited with what was happening......and could not understand why others did not share his enthusiasm.

 

Trump has and always only cared about himself. Trump doesn't give a d@mn about all those people's live who were ruined yesterday. Has he said anything about the people who were killed? Nope.

 

And that makes it even more strange that his supporters would do ANYTHING for him. Their loyalty is extreme and fanatical.

There seems to be no reason or rationality to any of this.

 

Older Democrats, or older potential Democrats, but not younger liberals.

BLM organizes protests with large white representation. Check the crowds.

Younger voters don't respond to Trump's incitement on race and ethnicity the way their parents and grandparents do.

 

I don't feel confident that Trump, and even more importantly, the enemies both domestic and the foreign controllers they have in charge have done yet in the coming 2 weeks.

I will feel much better after Biden is installed with our security and intelligence systems managers in charge and the current Trump-selected both self-serving hacks and traitors are gone, hopefully immediately fired, the day after Biden takes office, before Trump's grifter and incompetent hacks and criminals can be thrown out before they can steal the Whitehouse silverware and whatever nuclear secrets Trump's scum that they they hadn't already stolen.

 

I am one of those older Democrats. I will believe that black lives matter as soon as most black men act as though they think so. If black lives matter, why do so many black men kill other blacks? Why do so few black men marry the mothers of their children and raise those children properly?

The following chart demonstrates that blacks are far more likely to be killed by other blacks than by whites.

 

For the record, I hate Trump. In 2016 I voted for Bernie Sanders in the primary, and for Hillary Clinton in the general election. In 2020 I voted for Elizabeth Warren in the primary, and for Joe Biden in the general election.

Black Lives Matter is a shakedown organization that has been associated with black ghetto riots. "Peaceful protests against racial injustice" frequently end with stores being looted and burned.

The name "Black Lives Matter" implies a problem that does not exist. Very few blacks are killed by whites. Very many blacks are killed by other blacks.

 

Their beef it not about blacks being killed by whites, but about cops being more trigger happy when the suspect is black.

 

They already have. The vast majority of black men have never killed anyone just like the vast majority of white men have never lynched or assaulted a black man.

Because they sometimes live in a dehumanized environment.

Same reason.

What's your point? BLM are specifically protesting violence, more generally than murder, at the hands of police.

Now, I happen to think the focus on police violence is far too narrow, and in some sense misguided because problems between blacks and police are greatly exacerbated by "war on drugs" laws and general conditions in the black community. Truth be known, blacks are afraid of the police and police fear blacks.

We know there is no genetic basis of the violence in the black community, so we also know the problem is cultural. Just as blacks aren't by nature violent, whites aren't by nature racist against people of color.

(Yes, I know there are racist blacks--the dirty little secret liberals tend to ignore. It wasn't always ignored because the George Jefferson character on All in the Family and The Jeffersons was always making racist statements his wife was challenging and correcting.)

A lot of young people want to get off the merry-go-round older folks are on over race issues. I say this as a history teacher who dealt with race as part of understanding our heritage.

 

Trump sees himself as the center of the Universe - always has.

So here are two pictures that illustrate the Trump world ... The difference when Trump wins, and Trump loses ...

 

Police brutality is only a pretext. They are really angry because two generations after the civil rights legislation was passed into law they are still poor.

 

Okay. A Democrat by your DNA.

BLM are not organizing the violent BS that sometimes follows BLM protests, but they aren't taking care to loudly condemn thugs that use BLM events as cover. This is a huge political mistake, IMO.

Even the narrow view of what BLM protests--police violence against blacks--is a real product of the conflict between blacks and police born of poverty and criminalizing so-called recreational drugs. Black lives should matter enough we focus on the impact of racism on blacks and other minorities.

Damn few anybody are killed, by anyone.

 

That is what you say, but its not what they say.

Either way, the topic is Trump being happy GOP lost the Senate, which says a lot about what he cares about, and what he does not care about.

 

Because they still suffer from the impact of racism.

Think of how often poor whites are blamed for their poverty when the economic system is rigged against them.



Poor people--white, black, brown, etc.--are pitted against each other. We need to help people retrain for new jobs when they lose theirs to changing technology, trade patterns, consumer tastes, and so on.