We now arguably have the justification for shutting down Fox News, Breitbart, Newsmax, etc.

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  1. Quadhole

    Quadhole Well-Known Member

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    I honestly can't stand any of those site, nor the far right neoconservative dribble that comes out of so many mouths there. Yet, this will end up proving that the FAR Left media and their GLOBALIST owners control the narrative. They, Apple, Google, Facebook, NY Times, Wapo, already hide the real inequality. The owners make so much money (trillions and political control) they can't allow the public to know their friends and family that run the huge Biotechs, Big Pharma, and Globalist businesses such at Amazon etc. have FORCED this inequality thru deregulations and regulations.

    It will go from neocon right wing hating the libs. to most Americans hating the Globalist FED Controlled Cabal. It is a slow progress for people to become educated on it. First thing they will scream when pointing this out is : Antisemitism... They have built in the walls, the rules, the laws, control the media, the FED, and the Politicians.
    As much as I hate Trump, this is all a "I TOLD YOU SO MOMENT"

    I dont support Trump, and I dont support the far left at the top. Most Americans just want a good life, fair pay, and privacy with the right to voice an "HONEST" complaint. This is where Big Tech.. .will go the way of "globalist" know what is best for you and thus that is all you will receive in the media, both FOX, and MSM. APPLE doesn't have the right to censor BUSINESS, AN aPP... If so, then they too will be regulated. I understand stopping the riots, not allowing those like Trump to excite anger, yet without a voice, you will force even more brigades.

    They blew it, the FED and Eiltes by stripping this country of its manufacturing, once that was done, it was only a matter of time. Next to come in starvation and people in the streets. Cops stopping them, filling the jails with good people who only want a voice. Those with money will turn a blind eye for the next 4 years
     
  2. VotreAltesse

    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Absolutly not, that's just straigth up a lie. People who try unlawfull overtaking of power deserve consequences, people who stormed the Capitole deserve the same legal punishment that any other rioter. People who plan to overthrow the government through arms should face prison sentence.

    But you're simple spirit is unable to understand the difference between approving what happened in the capitole and using that event to censor your political ennemies.
    However I suppose that, by your very logic, because as you likely don't approve the burning of the Reichstag, you would then have approved the acts of nazis following the burning reichstag ?

    Considering my "butchering" of the language, I don't have any shame on how I speak a language that I learned, I heavily doubt you're able to speak another language as I speak english, and if you do, congratulations, which is very unlikely as people who learn other languages show more humility on the matter.
     
  3. HB Surfer

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    Hitler and Mussolini controlled the flow of information.... just like today's Commufascist Leftists.
     
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  4. Independent4ever

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    Shutting down the right wing news sites is not going to solve anything

    Both sides need to stop trying to top each other in terms of nonsense
     
  5. Quadhole

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    It would not have happened had Trump only been an honest man. He had the country in the palm of his hands and he doubled down on the lies. He created a mass following of *****... He could have had me, because my hatred of him is larger than the cabal. Once he is shut up, that leaves the cabal in full control. That also happened because of him. He partners with them for his own profit thru Jared, and then yells at the others.
    All he had too do was be honest...
     
  6. Quadhole

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    Yes, after they took it from the GLOBALISTS that owned all the news media before their rein.
    Everything always works in cycles.
     
  7. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Comm...u...fascist???

    Oh....to plumb the very DEPTHS of complete, total and UTTER inanity.

    You guys REALLY need to read up on what Orwell said about words and how you can't just make them up ad hoc as you go along.
    To quote a certain recent Medal of Honor winner "Words MEAN things"
     
  8. HB Surfer

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    What are you babbling about? The Left is using 1984 as a guidebook.
     
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  9. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    You can't combine communist with fascist, not without completely changing the definition of both words. That's not just a semantic quibble either, you can't really even discuss this issue at all if you're going to do that.
     
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  10. HB Surfer

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    ^^^ Doesn't realize they added "Right Wing" to Fascist definition and already changed the definition of the word. If you have some old dictionaries, pull them out and notice they definition change. You've already been duped.
     
  11. Kode

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    We already have laws, accepted by the SCOTUS, that modify our freedom of speech and freedom of assembly and other freedoms. We need another such modification in order to save the USA from dictatorship.

    But the right considers "a good life, fair pay, and privacy" and the necessary legislation that makes it possible to be "far left".

    huh? Language precision please.

    Why the change? I mean until Trump we didn't see much of these right wing Nazi "brigades" and didn't hear from so many racists and haters. They stayed quiet and hidden because they knew they were not to be tolerated. How do we put them back in their box?

    I understand, but there are alternatives. How about a HUGE movement by sensible people to elect the most progressive people to office and then press them to incentivize and facilitate conditions like a tax structure that eliminates and prevents unjustifiable levels of power and influence due to wealth, worker ownership and control of co-ops, an end to all private contributions to political campaigns (or limiting contributions to something the average American might make and a ban on all PACs and such contributors), separation of church and state, nationalization of banks and healthcare, a national program for protection of retirees from poverty, alternative energy, and the millions of jobs all this will create?
     
  12. Kode

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  13. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    You're the one being duped and you're doing it to yourself. Communist and Fascist just mean "whatever I don't like" going by your "definitions"
     
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    The media be it ABC, CBS, FOX, BRIETBART, ANON, NBC NYT, WASH POST, WASH TIMES etc should never have it' first amendment rights taken away. Trumpianists would like to shut down the first amendment for anyone any media thatbgells the truth about the Trumpocity. That would be the real CommuFascist .Trump fascist act. If the Trumpocity stayed in office another 4 years we would have CommuFacsism before 2024 ended.
     
  15. Kode

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    I guess your "simple mind/spirit" is unable to understand the most blatant "nuance". I didn't propose censoring my "political ennemies(sic)". They would remain free to misrepresent their political opponents and their policy proposals as always. But for some strange reason you are opposed to banning rhetoric that clearly incites insurrection against the USA as though there is some value in it. It is arguably far worse than shouting "fire!" in a crowded theater.

    "However, I suppose that, by your very logic, because you defend insurrection and the seizing of the state by a fascist dictator-wannabee, you would then approve of the extermination of Jews and maybe Arabs, Muslims, blacks, and Hispanics."

    How does that feel?

    J'etudie Francais a l'ecole pour trois ans, mais je parle Francais tres mal, so I don't even try.
     
  16. Kode

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    Ummm .... I think that is what @Aleksander Ulyanov said.
     
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  17. Kode

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    Then let's restore a new, enhanced version of The Fairness Doctrine and the Equal Time Rule.
     
  18. Steve N

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    What's ironic is the story of how Kamala Harris plagiarized MLK by saying she wanted freedom while sitting in a baby stroller is coming out at the same time the left wants to eliminate freedoms. How many things have the left wanted to ban? Lemme see, Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson, Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, happy meals, the 2nd amendment, the 1st amendment, statues, etc... Hate is such a driving force for the left that it will overcome their own cries for freedom.
     
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    I’m not agreeing with the OP, but your point isn’t valid.

    The first amendment doesn't protect speech that incites. That’s been pretty well ironed out in our countries history.

    What we need is for congress to put back in place the fairness doctrine, only this time it needs to be legislated, not just an FCC policy
     
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    Lets be perfectly clear here. What the right in this country wants is the implicate right to lie without repercussion
     
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    What you're suggesting would create even more disunity and division in this country.

    You are validating the words of every conservative who says that the left is against the 1st Amendment and for totalitarianism.

    And I can't tell you how many times I've heard liberals defend violence, saying that it brings about social change.

    Rep. Jerry Nadler said that Antifa was a myth.

    "And if you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them." - Rep. Maxine Waters.

    Shall we shut down CNN and the others if they air those views?
     
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    The 2nd Amendment is what protects the 1rst.
     
  23. Kode

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    And yet, just as the IRS can effectively shut a business down for gross tax violations (they may owe more tax and penalties than they can afford) and just as the law provides that anyone who ...
    "incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both", (here)

    there remains the possibility of prosecution of media under this Code 2383 law.
     
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    Care to provide any quotes to support this claim?
     
  25. Kode

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    Read my post #48 above. The law exists. And if you are worried about disunity and division, why aren't you even more worried about the probability of this being attempted again if we don't take action to hold perps' feet to the fire to the full extent of the law this time?
     

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