We now arguably have the justification for shutting down Fox News, Breitbart, Newsmax, etc.

I am split on this issue. I agree that the RW media are doing irreparable harm to the country, almost resulting in an overthrow of our democracy.

However, the answer is not to ban RW media indiscriminately. It is, concerning, however, that the RW media can lie without repercussions. In a free market, you would think that media outlets that lie constantly would be punished by consumers. However, if their consumers WANT to be lied to, it is a different story.

 

A couple of decades ago the left supported free speech and didn't fear opposing opinions. Now they are in a war to shut down all opposing speech. It will be their undoing if they keep it up. Fear is not an effective route to success.

They like to call conservatives fascists. Yet, if they want to see fascism they only need to look in the mirror.

 

They don’t get it.

 

Maybe a lot of people switched to RW media as a punishment to LW media for 4 years of lies? Isn’t that how capitalism works?

 

Yes but no one has said "indiscriminately".

 

That's not what he is saying. He thinks "Fascism" is only on the "Right", when in fact that definition was changed by NewSpeak Orwellians to push the false narrative. Pull an old dictionary off a shelf in a Library or at home and see how you have been manipulated.

 

"All"??

See how the right spins the truth? NOBODY EVER said anything close to "all". Free speech rights are already limited. Do those laws constitute "all"?

That is the mark of a poster with no good argument.

 

No chit Dick Tracey. I've said the same many times on this forum. Dictionaries defined fascism as a political system based on the merging of corporate interests with government until the 1940's when large corporations began buying up dictionary publishers. At that point the definition was changed to what pleased those big capitalists more. My rather old American Heritage Dictionary (1973) defines it as "A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism."

It sounds like you agree.

 

Excellent discovery! The Nazis used the same rationale to ban any publication they felt was threatening to their viewpoints, too!

Not long after "Messiah" Hitler took over in Germany, just about the only publications that you could find there were "Der Stürmer", the "Völkischer Beobachter", and not too much else.... Anything other than a Nazi point of view was intolerable and deserving of being suppressed!

And, many years later, after "Messiah" Obama took over the presidency in the U. S., we started seeing the advanced liberal-Left coming into ascendancy through its propaganda organs like MSNBC, CNN, Bloomberg News, PBS, New York Times, Washington Post, et al.

Today, the political atmosphere is even far worse than it was when Obama first came into the spotlight, but now, to the hyperliberal "woke" Left, anything other than a far-Left, liberal viewpoint is intolerable and deserving of being suppressed!

. "Happy Days are here again!"

 

BTW, I seem to remember you once criticizing and ridiculing me for suggesting that Trump was a dictator-wannabee. I think it abundantly clear now.

 

Fox went rogue much prior to that, in fact it was 33 years ago (1987), with stated intention to develop a RW media bloc to drive RW "views" very soon after the Fairness Doctrine and the Equal Time Rule were eliminated by Republicans.

 

Those seem like something worth pursuing.

 

Maybe along with US Code 2383.

 

I think he is supporting freedom of speech.

 

Your point is about shutting down a whole range of newspapers which their main common point is to be right winged.
Encouraging insurrection is already illegal and people who do so would and should already face consequences.

There is today clearly a lack of trust toward newspapers that is problematic as it lead to events like that. Globally, the democratic debate collapsed. It's useless to show a scapegoat, the left has participated into that collapse with their political correctness, and the right wing isn't innocent. We could also point the lack of rigour of many journalists that let to distrust, and the corruption of politicians. I don't think there is any solution to solve that.
But if you think that banning medias would solve anything, then you're dead wrong. In fact, I suppose that the more you would ban conservative from social medias, the more they would create their own parallel platforms, and the more things would go extreme. You want things go worse ? Do that.

On a parallel, manner there was many instances that tried to shut down communism. Because communism was trying to overcome through insurrection what was considered the legitimate order of the moment. Guess what ? They failed, and there wasn't even internet. You can shut down fox news, newsmax, breitbart, I predict you they will come back with the force of a boomerang.

In any case, it will just go any worser. As we're speaking, the whole world is living an economic crisis that is much much worse than 2008. We only scratched the surface of the sh*tshow that come.

That's a wonderfull thing to do, because language and their different structures shape our mind, learning another language is a tremenduous difficult task that enrich us at a very deep level. You should try, it's by using it we develop our abilities.

 

You have less chance of doing that than suing their bum holes off For misrepresenting the coronavirus. I would like to see all those relatives of dead victims sue the last cent out of the Murdoch family

 

And the moderators on this board too?

 

Kittens upset easily when faced with differing opinions

 

And you are the poster boy for denial.

 

Just curious but what about all those Democrat leaders that influenced people to destroy a federal courthouse, attack police stations, burn entire downtowns, and loot and riot for most of 2020? Lying incessantly about systemic racism led to the 2020 riots. How are they not partially responsible if they want to accuse FOX for being responsible for a relative handful of rioters compared to the entirety of what BLM and ANTIFA have done this year?

It was ALL wrong. But it seems only those idiot Trump supporters weren’t responsible for their own actions. The millions that listened to the MSM go on and on about police murdering black people and then 10s of 1000s rioted due to hearing the lies 24/7, but weren’t influenced? Really?

 

So am I.

 

What a great idea!!!!

Shutting down dissent is a great idea and a perfect way to change hearts & minds. What can go wrong?

We need to heal. LOL; what a crock.

Trump is losing friends all over the place. The change has to come from within; it's the only way.

 

The RW media is not the conservative media and the customer base of the RW media has morphed into nothing but fascistic autocratic government loving short sighted mass of guilibles.

 

And you're the one with no good argument, quisling.

 

I didn't say anything relating to "shutting down dissent". What a crock.