We may, finally, hold Trump accountable. What about his followers?

Not supporting this prez is the duty of patriotic Americans. He is a cancer on the country.

 

No.

Perception is reality, Lee.

Your Democrats are in charge in a few days. It’s up to them to disprove that perception.

 

Admit it. You hate Trump so much that you are utterly incapable or unwilling to credit him for anything good he did.

Such as
1) Getting companies to produce a Corona virus vaccine in record time.
2) Encouraging Jared Kushner's efforts in the Middle East to get Muslim countries to make peace with Israel.

I could list more but I'll start with those.

 

Exactly - along with all the other hyperbolic hypocrisy "Domestic Terrorism" - as if Trump incited this at the rally.

Today Blue Cried - Rule of Law - as if they had a clue what it meant .. as in - one person not to be punished for the actions of another .. innocent until proven guilty.

To claim Trump guilty of "Domestic Terrorism" is a bridge way too far.

And this was not terrorism to begin with - why is this word being used .. can Blue no longer distinguish between Al Qaeda and the rioters ?

"Armed Insurrection" -- what a Joke - as if these folks expected to overthrow the Gov't - give me a break. This is club loony toons

"Protect the US against All Threats - Foreign and Domestic" - was harped high from the Alter.

How many in the House voted for the "Stop Arming Terrorist Act" - the point of which was not to continue Arming Al Qaeda - you know .. the war on terror .. those guys . 911. How is arming this group with sophisticated US weapons ... not a threat to America.

We didn't impeach Obama over that one..

So how many voted for this Bill - how many in Congress wanted to stop supporting and arming Al Qaeda and other radical Islamist groups of the same El Saud ideology ?

Other than the 13 co-sponsors - Bipartisan .. and Tulsi - not too many.

How low are we placing the bar here - ?? someone explain to me what the new definition of terrorism is ... so we can start putting protesters who get out of hand in jail for life ... ?


This is mindless partisan rage - there is nothing pretty about this rage - and it is producing some ugly precedent.

 

No, it's not. Reality is reality. The reality is Trump lost the election.

 

To be precise, he's guilty of inciting acts of domestic terrorism.

 

1) you mean the german labs that produced the first vaccine with the help and encouragement of the German govt?
2) They didn't make peace. They only acknowledge the existance of Israel as a state. It's a first step but it's a far cry from actual peace.

 

Because you mention his supporters in the OP, I'll just say that I'm interested to follow the investigations into the tours held by Republicans the day before the riot, as well as Rudy's call that evening to who he thought was Tuberville.

 

First steps have to come before second steps.

 

Yes, but anything can happened to prevent that second step. A change of leadership, a percieved slight, a new player in the region...

 

Like Biden becoming president. Not sure where your "reasoning" is going. Few things in life are permanent. That doesn't make them valuable though.

 

Nah, I think the change will happen in the UAE and Saudi Arabia. The recognition of Israel wasn't a bottom-up decision so I think a big part of the civilian population may have objections about peace with Israel.

 

Providing government funding to speed the development of a vaccine is what any prez would have done. That you find the need to give him credit for it puts on display a lack of genuine accomplishments he can take credit for.

Meanwhile, his epic failure in responding to the virus continues to play out.

 

Saying it's "what any president would have done" is an utterly intellectually bankrupt argument. You could say the same for FDRs response to the Great Depression or Pearl Harbor. Or for that matter Lincoln's response to the secession of the first group of southern states.

 

Depends on what definition of terrorism one is using - yours being a definition made up out of thin air - one driven by partisan political motive ... and this is not good.

 

the reality was, Pfizer was in trials before Trump set up warp speed

Pfizer started trials in April 2020, Trump talked about creating warp speed on April 29th 2020, after the Vaccine was already created and started trials a week earlier, and warp speed was not created until 3 weeks after the vaccine first went to trials

Phase I–II Trials were started in Germany on 23 April 2020, and in the U.S. on 4 May 2020

Operation Warp Speed was active from May 15, 2020 – February 24, 2021

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Warp_Speed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pfizer–BioNTech_COVID-19_vaccine


almost like Trump created warp speed after he heard the vaccine entered trials to try and steal some credit

 

What a shinning success that turned out to be.

 

Sounds like the OP wants us all in the gulag.

 

No it isn't. The examples you gave are far more complex and nuanced compared to the obvious decision to give tax payer dollars to quicken vaccine research. That was the no-brainer of no-brainers and the only reason why Trump didn't screw it up.

 

What does any of that have to do with Trump defenders? Do you even understand the silliness in supporting the prosecution of every Republican voter for voting? You win my nonsense of the week award.

 

Next time try reading the OP.

But what about Trump's defenders/supporters? I invite them to reflect on what they've enabled.

An armed insurrection, the goal of which was to overturn a fair, certified election.
Multiple constitutional crises.
An inept federal response to a devastating pandemic.
Huge additions to the national debt.
The gutting of essential governmental departments.
Divisiveness not seen since the Civil War.
The loss of respect by the international community.
Two impeachments.
A weakening of the country.
Degradation of faith in institutions.
Disgrace to the office of the prez.

Is there a way to hold them responsible for their culpability? I don't think there is.

"You win my nonsense of the week award." It may be impossible for you to comprehend how little I care.

 

They've been arrested. Are you saying that everyone that voted for Trump or supported Trump should be held accountable for the actions of a few?

Vague.

That's your opinion, not a fact. In fact, Democrats accused Trump of rushing the vaccine, lol.

Are Obama supporters in the gulags yet for their support of his huge additions?

Laughable. Not a crime. Not even close.

Democrats do that, not Trump.

Is that a crime? Who cares?

Two petty, failed impeachments. Thanks.

Record unemployment before COVID. Rising wages. Sounds like you're just wrong here.

Liberals and deep staters did that to themselves.

Was he getting oral sex underneath the desk?

And why should you think that, unless you have totalitarian fascist tendencies?

There, your OP has been refuted. You're welcome.

 

Easy to comprehend. Even easier than understanding the silliness of your position. I'll give you an oak leaf for your award.

 

What's really scary is that the OP thought to even ask the question.

 

Right. Indict and prosecute all those you disagree with for the crime of disagreement, and ignore the BS you heap on everyone else.
That's the American way- Or at least the way of a certain group who likes to pretend they are.