Saudi Arabia Is Scrubbing Hate Speech from School Books

Oh, it's "Countries that matter" now? Come on, what is your problem, why do you deny the truth? Why do you back Assad? What WOULD make you happy?

 

So the state department is agreeing with Obama? Because they have the facts?

 

I didn't say any such thing, you just want to tar all the anti-Assad rebels with the same brush so you can either have an excuse not to support them and keep Assad in power. WHY? Why don't you want to depose him and have a democratic and secular Syria?

 

I did not say the SDF were AQ/ISIS - The SDF are the Kurds - for the 10th time - and you have been reminded of this at least 5 times .. yet continue to disingenuously pretend you have never been made aware of this fact.

You have been shown that both the AQ and ISIS - fought for the FSA - so this is your second disingenuous denial of reality.

There were many groups that fought under the FSA banner - What you have not manage to do - is find a single group that was moderate.

Unless of course you want to claim groups like Ahrar Al -Sham are moderates - like the State Department in the videos shown to you.

Is this the group you want to put forward as Moderates .. Obama said they were - and Obama would not lie to you would he ?

 

You are lost - Russia and The Syrian Army defeated ISIS - then at the end the US forsook their allies - and attacked ISIS in Raqqa using the Kurds as a proxy army in 2017.

We are discussing the period from 2011 - to when Russia entered the war in 2015 - and all the arms, supplies, and support Obama was giving to the Islamic State - including Al Nusra/Al Qaeda .

You have asked "Why Why Why" numerous times - and there are many possibilities - none of which changes the fact that Obama led a large coalition of nations in a massive effort to arm, supply, support - an Islamist Jihad - a "Holy War" - the objective of which - was to turn Syria into an Islamic State ..

No one in their right mind - with any knowledge of what was happening on the ground - thought the armed insurgency was being conducted by "Moderates" .. not even in the beginning.

The moderate protest movement was quickly taken over by the hardliners - and there was no illusions of what these folks were after ..

https://www.christianpost.com/news/...om-anti-government-protestors-in-syria-50104/

This was before armed insurrection -- those that conducted the armed insurrection - are all the Sunni Islamist groups in Syria - hard liners.

Those fighting this battle were the hardliners - right from the get go -- perhaps threre were a few small groups in the beginning that could be called "moderate" .. can't really find those either but .. it matters not as withing 6 months there was no doubt what this monster was.

As per the DIA at that time

http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-con...12-DOD-Release-2015-04-10-final-version11.pdf


Same thing from the NY-Times in early 2013

Nowhere in rebel-controlled Syria is there a secular fighting force to speak of

“We all want an Islamic state and we want Shariah to be applied,” said Maawiya Hassan Agha, a rebel activist reached by Skype in the northern village of Sarmeen"
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/28/w...-create-dilemma-for-us.html?pagewanted=all&_r=

This is all water under the bridge by mid 2013 - as the Islamic State arrives .. All the major cities of Syria have been taken by "The Rebels" and all of these cities then become part of the new Islamic State.

So at this point .. while one might have been able to argue the moderate case prior to this - after this time - Only and Idiot would suggest that moderates made up some significant fighting force .. one you have yet to find even a shred of - never mind a major city they took in this time period

After this .. We know what they were - and yet the arms continue to flow for many years after this point - as does the support - and supply lines..

by late 2015 - Assad is on the ropes - the black flag is close to flying over Damascus - and this is when Russia officially joins - and wipes out the Islamic State in Syria - which includes Al Nusra and ilk ..

The US media and political pundits crying - Ohhh..Russia is not distinguishing between the Moderates and Al Qaeda or They are not fighting ISIS .. which was all a preposterous lie that you gulped down with your morning tea.

Ah yes .. the "Moderate Rebel Lie" - Got you good they did

 

Come on, answer my question, WHY would Obama sponsor terrorism? Why do you not want the Syrian moderates to overthrow Assad and establish a democratic Syria?

 

Yes and the moderate rebels backed by the West have now crushed the extremists. So WHY don't you want them to win? WHY don't you want a free and democratic Syria?

 

1) I did answer your first question question - there are many possibilities. (One possibility is because Assad blocked Pipelines/ Energy Corridor that was favored by the west)

What ever the reason - Obama armed Al Qaeda in Syria

2) is a false accusation .. as I did not say nor imply - that I would not like moderates to overthrow Assad - and establish democracy.

but you know this already - and that your position is hopelessly lost - so false accusations is all you have left.

 

Want who to win ? and what does this have to do with Obama arming Al Qaeda ?

Your accusation that I do not want a free and democratic Syria is false.

The rebels backed by the West during the war from 2011-2015 were Al Qaeda - Why are you calling these folks moderates ?

Al Qaeda and other Islamist Jihadists wanted "Theocracy" not "Democracy".

You have some twisted values IMO - and you are spouting falsehoods - desperate to apologize for your Beloved El Saud - and spawn.

 

Old legal adage, when the facts are on your side argue the facts, when the law is on your side argue the law, when neither are on your side shout and bang the table, when that doesn't work resort to emojis.

 

They were not, they were a variety of groups, the US and other western allies want a free and democratic Syria and back the rebel groups who can deliver it. Do you want it?

 

You are avoiding - and projecting .. unable to address the topic - Your necessary illusion bubble burst and in tatters on the floor - the realization that indeed your beloved Obama was allied with Al Qaeda in 2 wars - for much of the last decade.

 

You are restating a position - that has been proven false - over and over 6 to Sunday. A position that you yourself contradicted = claimed was false. Self Delusion or just disingenuous nonsense - Which is it ?

There were no anti Assad rebel groups of significance that wanted Free and Democratic Syria - never mind being in a position to deliver.

ISIS/Al Nusra were in a position to take out Assad - which is why were were allied with the Islamic State - but what they were delivering was Strict Sharia Theocracy.

Somehow you have been tricked into believing that Strict Sharia Theocracy - dark age style - was freedom and democracy .. and you fell hook line and sinker.

Virginia Senator Thanks Syrian President Bashar Al Assad for Saving the Lives of Christians
Open Letter of U.S. Senator Richard H. Black to President Bashar al-Assad Acknowledges US Support to Terrorists

My personal thanks to the Syrian Arab Army and Air Force for protecting all patriotic Syrians, including religious minorities, raped, tortured, kidnapped and beheaded at the hands of the foreign jihadists”…

I cannot explain how Americans, who suffered so grievously at the hands of al-Qaeda, were tricked into supporting the jihadists.

But I do know that many U.S. officials disagree with equipping and training the terrorists who penetrate your borders from the Kingdom of Jordan and through Turkey. Senator Richard H. Black of Virginia, 13th District https://www.globalresearch.ca/virgi...ad-for-saving-the-lives-of-christians/5384338

The good Senator Black says we were arming terrorists and that many US officials were not happy about this Obama Policy .."But I do know that many U.S. officials disagree with equipping and training the terrorists who penetrate your borders from the Kingdom of Jordan and through Turkey.

Who are these folks - coming in from Jordan - are these perhaps these elusive moderates you have yet to find ?

but Richard is not the only one saying this you were shown 13 Bipartisan in Congress who co-signed the "Stop Arming Terrorist Act" - who said the same thing .. even more directly - as this was much later in 2017 when far more of the facts had come into the public domain.

NO NO NO you protested -- these folks did not lie .. and I agree that these folks are telling the truth when they say that Obama was arming the Islamic State. .. and Rand Paul who said we were allied with the Islamic State in Syria..

So why do you contradict your previous position - yet again returning to the same refuted vomit - that you yourself admitted was refuted - and pretending like this conversation had not happened..

Strange indeed... Having that Obama bubble burst has really affected you methinks.

 

I don't even think that some toothless redneck waving a Confederate flag in some bunker in Idaho would actually say that. Obama was allied to AQ whilst simultaneously killing them?

 

The US is backing moderate forces in Syria, it was these moderate forces which crushed ISIS/AQ and hope to form a free and democratic Libya which is what the US wants. What more is there to say?

 

You are once again confused and in the depths of dark denial.

Obama was defending and protecting Al Qaeda/ISIS in Syria for vast majority of the war in Syria - Only after ISIS was defeated by Russia/Iran/Syrian /Army - did Obama turn on his Allies to cover his tracks.

Toothless rednecks are generally ignorant and uninformed - but they do cling to platitudes. So I agree that such a person would be shocked to find out that our Nation was allied with Al Qaeda in 2 wars for most of the last decade.

 

The US only backed the Kurds moderate forces who "crushed ISIS in Syria" until after the war was over in 2017 - and ISIS had already been crushed everywhere else in Syria by Russia/Iran/Syrian army

In the action against Raqqa we were allied with both the Kurds and the Syrian Army - fighting against IS.

For the entire war from 2011 to 2017 - Obama was allied with IS

but this has all been told to you 10 times already - yet you return again and again to the same falsehood - returning to your own vomit.

Strange what happens to folks when a Necessary Illusion bubble is popped. ... You will be OK .. but it will take time.

Say it to yourself .. We were allied with Al Qaeda in 2 wars for much of the last decade in Syria - and we are still allied with them in Yemen as far as I know.. the fighting has calmed down there over the past year or two - proposals on the table for some kind of settlement... but this matters not... for that entire war we were allied with Al Qaeda - and Brother El Saud - who spawned Al Qaeda and IS ..

 

No, it was SDF that finished ISIS, Assad just wants to keep up the bogeyman of him fighting AQ/ISIS to cling to power.

 

No the US was never allied to ISIS and certainly isn't supporting them in Yemen. WHY do want to believe Obama backed terrorists?

 

You just repeated a point that I made in the previous post - pretending that I had claimed the contrary. What a Joke of a strawman .. Pathetic attempt.. surely you can do better.

pop pop pop goes the "necessary Illusion Bubble" - and that is when the mind bending denial and fallacy begins.

Ah .. but Reality is what it is Bob .. We were allied with them Islamist Jihadists in 2 wars - for much of the last decade. All of the last Decade in Yemen .. for which we are now being investigated by the ICC with complicity in War Crimes , Crimes against Humanity for our dubious alliance with the Devil .. Brother El Saud - and its Al Qaeda/IS spawn.

 

According to 15 bipartisan in congress - indeed we were allied with ISIS in Syria .. and it is a well established fact that Al Qaeda is on our side in the conflict against the Houthi's - they don't even try to hide that one .. this is just common knowledge ...

I am sorry young Skywalker .. you have believed in a fantasy - a myth - and have been following the dark side - unbeknownst to yourself.

Seduced by the dark you have been .. relent from this dark path at once !

 

Yeah, I think Star Wars has more evidence in fact than your posts.

 

America is always the good guys and does not back terrorists, WHY do you want to blacken their name?

 

You know your own words are false.

Like a child who has just found out their favorite doll is "Chucky" - your reaction to finding out Obama armed Al Qaeda is

 

"America is always the good guys" - Yes Bob - that is the "Necessary Illusion" - the bubble that popped when you found out that Obama armed Al Qaeda in Syria - and the USA was not the good guy in that battle .. and definitely not on the side of good.

It will take some time Bob - but you will recover from having your illusion of Blessed Obama and Beloved El Saud tainted.