Mitt Romney: Trump Impeachment Trial Important For 'Unity,' 'Accountability'

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  1. PARTIZAN1

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    So you expected that the Democrats would rally around the king of the liars?
     
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    Bullshit, my friend, it is always about Democrats and Republicans. And Democrats are the ones who aid and abet Domestic terrorists. But you'll never talk about, much less admit it.

    Seattle radio host rips Democrats over Portland riots: ‘They created this monster’

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/seattle-radio-host-rips-democrats-riots-created-monster
     
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    What are you talking about? McConnell was Senate leader. He could have moved it along quicker. Regardless, we don't just go about our business like nothing happened. The American people are owed the truth. Listen to Romney. He was right.
     
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    What Romney is essentially communicating is that there is an untouchable elite class of people ruling over America, the RINO/DINO Party.

    Our overlords are indignantly uniting after being embarrassed that Americans do not like them, and they will ensure that no person who is a Nationalist, Progressive, Socialist, Libertarian, Communist or anyone with ideas outside those of The Realm of Power will ever become president again.

    That's all he's saying. Impeachment is needed for "Unity". Just not for "our" unity as citizen peons.

    Media have created so much manufactured consent of "hate Trump" that millions of Americans are now willing to support a Government Police State, censorship of political dissent, and totalitarian rule by the Corporate neo-Cons and neo-Libs.
     
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    We're not bringing the 7 people back(obviously) and the evidence for conviction just doesn't exist now(it might, in the heat of emotion again made sense when the moment was ripe). Now it's about "holding a man who's no longer in office accountable."

    It's absolutely comical. Kabuki theater in the Senate, that's all it is. No different than the last time, hopefully a lot quicker and without TV interruptions for people.
     
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    If those Democratic boys did move quickly Jim " One Who Never Met A Pedophile He Did Not Like" Jordan would scream " Rush to judgement".
     
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    I'm not a huge Mitt fan (I did vote for him though) but he's right in this case.
     
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    Mitt is a lot of things but swamp creature isn't one of them.
     
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    How so?
     
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    The Left is far more totalitarian than the Right, but the RINO's are certainly more than happy to roll over an have Democrats "look like" the bad guys as long as they get their cut in the rush to install global governance where American's Political Managers are still promised a big chunk of the spoils of the elitists' war against the citizens of the world.
     
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    He's so right he acknowledges the "quickly as possible". It's a farce. This isn't uniting anybody, all it's doing is beating a dead horse long after the corpse is dead and the flies are flying around it. It's over lol.

    Like @LoneStarGal said, this is a farce meant to project power but it doesn't even project that. It projects how sad our capital is.
     
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    Why does it bother you? Are you afraid of the truth?
     
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    What 'truth'? What do you think you're going to uncover? Trump made certain remarks, but these remarks don't fulfill the incitement clause. And there's no real connection between his remarks and the storming of the capitol. There's a symbolic connection, perhaps but not a literal one or a defined one.

    And because there isn't, there also isn't going to be a conviction. So what the **** are we doing here? Nothing. This is kabuki theater. There's no unity, justice, accountability, whatever. Those phrase words don't apply here. You're beating a dead horse, and that's all you're doing.
     
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    A million-dollar question...

    Do you know what the truth is? The one that is not preached over by the PMSNBC, CNN, DNC? I mean, the truth that is prohibited to be heard and deleted by Goggle, Twitter and the likes?
     
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    Impeachment is a political process, and not a legal one. The “standards” are much less.

    I honestly dont think that they will convict him. That would destroy the Republican Party for a very long time. Although I honestly believe that many in the party do think he is guilty, they will not convict him, because, we’ll, self preservation. And at the end of the day, those republicans still think he holds some power over the party. It will be interesting to see who the republicans in the house and senate actually want to piss off, the 45% that believe Trump, of the 55% that dont. Either way, they loose.

    Now you know EXACTLY why Nancy Pelosi brought this forward. She knew all along that this would not remove him from office, but that it would at a minimum create a serious division in the Republican Party, if not fracture it completely
     
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    And the fracturing of the Democratic Party is soon to follow. For an independent like me, it's great news. Just, the whole "heroic" aspect of it is absolutely comical but at least you have a clear-eyed perspective of why they're doing this farce.
     
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    This is what happens when half or more of the country increasingly disapproves of its government leaders over decades of time. They put up walls, barbed wire, and armed guards to protect themselves from an unhappy citizenry. Then they blame citizens as "terrorists" instead of blaming themselves for corrupting the government. This is what totalitarian states and dictators do.

    This isn't about Trump. They are using the Capitol riot as their Reichstag Fire and things are about to get bad as they start putting the boot on the necks of political dissidents on the Left and on the Right. Trump is just a scapegoat for their decades of failure. There would be no Trump if they had governed properly, for the people.

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    The calculus is most certainly not lost on dem leaders. Thanks trump for one last kick in the nuts to the GOP on your way out. What a POS he is.
     
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    I know of no such thing... the joke is that this asshat made a serviceable attempt at a 2nd term.

    What "immediate action" are you referring to?

    They tried for a 25th amendment move, but that was out of their hands. They asked for resignation and ditto.

    Just so you truly understand what the 3 goals of this trial are.

    1. Set a precedent that the Senate will convict a president on an impeachment charge.
    2. Hopefully this is a deterrent to any future fascist who gets elected POTUS
    3. Most importantly, attempt to get T**** disqualified from holding Federal Office in the future.

    All 3 admirable goals..
     
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    John Roberts is rumored to read the Constitutional requirements that his job as Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of overseeing Senate Impeachment Trials only extends to trials involving potential removal from office of a sitting president. He may not preside over the hearing since Biden is the sitting president. It's not his job and there is no precedent or any Constitutionality for convicting and/or removing a previous president who is once again just a citizen.

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    I hear that Democrats may look into something with the 14th Amendment as Plan B, once this Senate Impeachment trials fails to get their desired result. I guess that obsessing over Citizen Trump for the next four years is "unifying".
     
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    It will be really awkward if Kamala Harris presides over the Trump trial. That will be so healing, and won't look politically motivated in the teeniest tiniest little bit. LOL
     
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    That's your opinion. I'll wait for the actual trial. Again, why does it bother you? If Trump is clean, then you have nothing to worry about.
     
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    LMFAO, much applause to Justice Roberts(he also has to still be peeved at Senator Warren for her inappropriate remarks at the last impeachment trials.). I don't care for the politics of a Justice(and in fact, think that such politics on both sides of the aisle have damaged the court). but I do care about his honorable integrity to tell this kabuki theater to F off.
     
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    Not going to happen, but the "judge" in the impeachment trial is really just a traffic cop anyway... Even Rudy could probably handle that task....

    If Roberts won't do it, I imagine Speaker Schumer will ask another SCOTUS member to sit in his place..

    Also, Roberts is wrong if that actually is his interpretation...
     
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    Do you think pointing out something comical is being worried about it? Or caring about Trump's cleanliness or uncleanliness? President Biden is President, it is therefore incumbent on the Senate to at least TRY to uphold some decorum during its early stages.

    This laughable theater is the result of emotionally driven choices on both sides: Voters who wanted Trump gone and Trump who couldn't accept the election result. So we're here now, with an arguably even worse government. And it's not even 72 hours old.

    Pure hilarity at its finest.
     
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