Big Trumper here, but its probably best if he gets impeached, even if not legal

So now we're blaming Trump for child trafficking? What won't we blame this guy for?

 

Malicious. That's an excellent word. It clearly describes Trump's words and actions before, during, and after his mob of supporters committed insurection on his behalf on Jan. 6.

 

Seriously, and not one word about the lowlife's that TRAFFICKED them here only to never reclaim them.. Sort of odd the way the left view things!

 

Like, how do they not know there's a balance. Blame the guy for things he can reasonably be blamed for, but also understand mitigating facts in a situation. I don't know maybe it's just me but I like to take everything in totality as I assess something.

 

was there a trial for Bernie Sanders for "insighting" the softball game shooting? NO, because he never actually said "SHOOT UP THE GAME" and Trump never said "STORM THE CAPITAL" Facts are Facts. DEAL!

 

I was responding to post #8. Try to keep up.

 

Yeah, you blamed him for not being able to reunite 'children' with 'parents' whom the government wasn't even able to track themselves(because in many cases, they weren't their parents.). Child trafficking was a HUGE issue, and we will continue to face this problem until we amend the 14th amendment to get rid of de jure citizenship.

De jure citizenship made sense only for the child born to American parents inside of the country. But now, it's "huff, puff I'm pregnant. My baby's a US citizen!" Yeah, I highly doubt our forefathers had the idea that the US was going to be a baby factory for the world.

From the Nationalist perspective, we'd amend the 14th to make it so that de jure citizenship only applies to those already inside of the country and this part might be harder but absolutely necessary to push through: Retroactively waiving the citizenship of those infants who were brought here to exploit said loophole in law.

While true, it's not the infant's fault but we must restore the standard of applicable law if we're to be a nation of laws at all. They can still be nationalized, but not the pure citizenship that is afforded to US Citizens. That's the whole damn point of the system, without it the Union would've never been formed.

 

And when an elected official incites a violent insurrection?

 

So Republicans are okay with breaking the law as long as it helps their party?

 

What makes you think historians are immune to the TDS?

 

The above type of "thinking" reveals so much on several levels if sincere. It's likely just bait/trolling though, revealing something different.

To the topic, I'm all for the Fake Impeachment sequel, "The Empire Strikes Back" at this point, let's get this thing accelerated well and good. Only 100 million middle class taxpaying citizens are currently wide awake to the immense corruption in Washington, let's make it 120 million or so.

 

Not trafficking. Separation and detainment.

 

You are aware that the cruelty of child separation at the boder was the point, right?

 

How many of the separated children were brought here by traffickers? Do you actually know? Can you prove that it applied to more than a very small percentage of separated children?

 

What DID Sanders actually say? Did he even know about this guy?

There is a huge difference between a politician having a nut job supporter who needs to be locked up, and a politician speaking directly to his supporters, telling them that they had to fight, to "stop the steal!" Dozens of those from the insurection of Jan. 6 have told authorities that they were acting dirctly on Trump's behalf, that they were certain that storming the Capitol looking for people like Pence and Pelosi was exactly what Trump was counting on them to do. I don't think the shooting "Bernie Bro" ever said anything about doing it because Sanders wanted him to, or even that Sanders had ever said anything remotely like "fight those Republicans.

Your analogy fails, bigly.

 

My analogy is perfect. its taking something that WAS NOT said and then interpreting it however you chose. Here in America we have LAWS and Trump did not break any LAWS...its a win win for me..if he doesn't get impeached I can gloat and if he does get impeached the Republican party has a better shot in 2024.

 

If there was a Shred of Proof of Election Fraud Trump would be on Prime Time showing the Public.

When a Republican Secretary of State who voted and contributed to Trumps campaign

said all the Fraud and conspiracy theories were non existent after recounts and investigations and that Trump Lost the Election

Then it's obvious Trump Lost

 

Every one of them with parents so oblivious to the dangers of dragging small children hundreds of miles thru the most corrupt POS counties in the western hemisphere..

The only proof I have is

If the lowlifes had PROPER RECORDS they would have been recorded, and if the lowlifes would have taken the time to CLAIM their children they certainly wouldn't be rotting away in cages or foster care which is, in many cases worse then the cages!!

 

It's called programming! You can see it in almost every post about covid on this site! Fact, the entire planets has been infected, every country has experienced deaths and hardly a word of fault is focused on anyone other then Trump.. No other leaders around the world are bashed for their their losses to covid! And the biggest sign is the amount of praise we see on this site for Chiner and the "Job well done" they have done death and economic wise.. Hardly a mention "IF AT ALL REALLY" about chiners roll in this pandemic, no mention of Chiners open travel or their criminal decision along with the WHO to hold back data supplied by Taiwan that virus was human to human transmitting in December 2019.

All these deaths were sacrificial so the DNC could make ONE PERSON on this planet look bad and to win an election.. The DNC is far more dangerous then this virus ever was, and it show just how important we the people are to American politicians..

Thats what the people of the U.S. should be focusing on!

 

That's not the case here, but, if a prosecutor thinks it is, they are free to seat a grand jury and if they agree, to indict him. It's never going to happen, and if it does, it will be laughed out of court.

Or, if you want to pursue him according to the lower civil standard, anyone who thinks they were harmed by his "incitement to erection" as Chuck Schumer put it, are welcome to sue him in civil court where the standard is only "more likely than not" rather than "beyond a reasonable doubt" and you only need a majority of the jurors rather than an unanimous decision. You'll lose that one too, probably in summary judgment.

But go ahead with Soviet Style Political Show Trial so illegitimate that even the Chief Justice refuses to lend his credibility to it. The Left has so viciously attacked our electoral systems, and they are tired of hiding their crazy, so let's get on with it.

Like the riots that they were so sure had popular support, I expect you to see very quickly that no one thinks these dangerous antics by the Left are amusing.

 

~ That is why Trump received the votes of 10 million more Americans in 2020 than 2016. That can never be disputed.

 

Irrelevant.

 

Republicans voted the Republican ticket

Trump Lost the 2020 Election by 10 Million votes.

Trump Lost the White House then his underhanded actions in Georgia Lost the Republicans the Senate

Then Trump inciting a riot on the Capital Lost Republicans their Donor Base

Just Trump being Trump

 

I think you're overlooking what Trump did the day of the insurrection, and what he had done in the weeks leading up to it.

On Jan 6 at 1:59PM, people were trying to break into the Capitol. This led to Senators being evacuated from Senate Chambers. What did Trump do? At 2:24PM Trump tweeted, “Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!”

It wasn't until 4:17PM that Trump told them to stop, telling them "This was a fraudulent election, but we can’t play into the hands of these people. We have to have peace. So go home. We love you. You’re very special." At 6:01PM, he tweeted, "“These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long. Go home with love & in peace. Remember this day forever!”

This article describes a broader context of Trump winking at violence over the course of 2020.

 

That is Trump's view, and just because you don't agree with it, doesn't make it a "crime", or "treason", or "sedition". He's free to hold it and he is free to voice it. Do you even understand what it means to be an American?

Trump wanted Pence to return the issue of electors of the disputed States, to their State Legislatures. It was falsely reported that he wanted Pence to unilaterally give Trump these votes, this is untrue, Trump's statements are easily located. You may not agree with his view, but, and here is where you guys fall into the ditch, that doesn't make his views a crime!

Further, the President's views are not even constitutionally far-fetched, the State Legislators are constitutionally charged with the selection of Electors, and the 12th Amendment which describes the counting of the votes only assigns active duties to the Vice President.

Now the Vice President did not agree with President and he did not handle it in the manner that Trump desired, and that's not a crime either. The way some folks try to criminalize disagreement is really a stain on the Party.

And now the political Show Trials? It's quite ugly, but, you won't be stopped, so get on with it. Now that the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court has refused to go along with this sham show trial, who is going to preside over it when the Constitution, in Presidential Impeachment, ONLY assigns that role to the Chief Justice?