Unarmed woman is shot by Police in Capitol. The People Who Scream ‘Police Brutality’ Don’t Care.

I don't think so.

 

A nazi who, drove over her.... as in... what you also keen to support Donald's thing of "violence is on both sides".
You agree that something replicable like a broken window and a stolen tv is on par with a BLM protester with a claim that violence is on both sides.
As if you did not know we were discussing this. And so I am calling you out over your 2nd rated norms here.

 

Call all you want, she died in a cultural confrontation because one side forgot the nature of the other. Violence is always a last resort and it wasn't just TV set being stolen that happened. People died in those mostly peaceful demonstrations too. There are people on both sides with low tolerance levels.

 

The white fascist riots are simply FAR WORSE. They were hunting down politicians to lynch, they attacked the cops, and killed them.
And you claim you can not equate, but you than make the equation again by dragging in the BLM riots.
So you either drop the argument of BLM or you make an make an equation to sweet talk the fascist horde.

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Show me where you said it was just a tiny fraction of the city.

Show me where I said it was totally oky.

Them white fascists posed a threat to the police officers lives for hours and hours, and they did not shoot.
The whole world was a witness to treating white people differently.

Them white fascists posed a threat to the police officers lives for hours and hours, and they did not shoot.
The whole world was a witness to treating white people differently.

You're just still pushing an equation that the riots of BLM are just as bad.
That's a fascist narrative, that you refuse to let go by endlessly dragging it in.

You need less police when you do, so you can defund the cops with the same result.
No point to raise taxes.

You already told me that the procedure was to de-escalate.
And I already told you there was no de-escalating.
The cops simply refused to shoot white people when they were threatened to be killed.
The same cops never showed no such restraint against black people.
The world was a witness to this institutionalized racism.

 

So then why do you mention the empty shelves?

 

I think I've lost the thread here.

 

You mentioned empty ammo shelves.

 

And gun cases, most stores have very little left. It was like this when Obama was elected too. Now as to why, my speculation is the uncertainty our political climate has created. People keep walking things to the edge and stopping short but playing that close to the trip wire sooner or later someone will overplay their hand and it will be really ugly.

 

Wouldn't there have been a surge in gun and ammo sales when people knew that Biden won?

 

Did he say PHYSICALLY fight? NO! So I guess Maxine Waters meant PHYSICALLY "push" when she told people to "PUSH back on people!"

Not by NAME! However, Biden was totally capable of condemning white supremacy by name! So was Trump!

He should have been more specific, but the violent people were the MINORITY. There were lots of Trump supporters who were peaceful and Trump wanted to thank them. The protests was MOSTLY PEACEFUL - just like the BLM protests!

Irrelevant to your claim that all that happened in the summer was windows being broken and TV's being stolen! You think that there was no death at all!

It's your opinion too! You know that "violence on both sides" doesn't mean EQUAL violence on both sides.

 

Why do I need to show you that? I didn't CLAIM that!

Well, I asked:

And you replied:

You think that they should have shot REAL bullets?

Nope. I've said all along that the two incidents are DIFFERENT!

Less police doesn't necessarily mean less funding. The money can be spent on other police resources. Anyway, I'm totally open to investing in community programs, I just don't accept that defunding the police is required in order to achieve it.

Well, that's what the left was arguing in favour for When Trump sent Federal law enforcement to Portland, the left went mad and said that it made things worse! The DC Mayor told federal troops to stand down! See here: https://thefederalist.com/2021/01/0...tand-down-day-before-violent-us-capitol-riot/

"The same cops" as in DC cops?

 

Not in terms of property damage.

 

Sorry, but this is bullshit!
"... when he deserved it ..." is right the point why they never did, because who decides that he deserves it at Fox news, eh?
Right this "I love Trump people" and that they will make such a decision is more as unlikely!

The general problem was and is that if you take one issue and no matter what ... CNN will report in "anti Trump behavior" and Fox News will do in "pro Trump behavior".
Show me any example where Fox News grilled Trump at one of his countless lies he spread please ... and I mean these countless examples which are by pure factual evidence a lie of Trump! Right here you have the problem, because the complete issue was ignored by Fox News or they denied that it is a lie or they tried to relativate it all down ...

 

What do you think caused the surge?

 

He did not say VERBALLY fight like hell either. And suggesting that there is such a thing is just utterly ridiculous, but there is you.

Doesn't matter Biden did not specifically name a group. He condemned what went on, while Donald expressing his personal love to the people who attacked the cops while not naming a specific group. And FYI, Donald played dumb of not knowing who the proud boys were in order to not condemn them by name. So you got no leg to stand on.

But he wasn't specific when he told them he loved them. Hence you got no leg to stand on.
While the rally was a 1000's big, and of that group they got +400 people at the moment charged for what they did in a couple of hours.
True, a minority... but it's a substantial big % of that group.

And you're still equating BLM protests where materialistic things got destroyed that can be replaced, with fascists attacking democracy at it's core in an attempt to take over the country.

It's not irrelevant, since YOU are making that equation again and again that breaking windows and stealing tv's is on par with murder.

It's not my opinion. The fascists were delighted that Donald compared the deliberate murder of a BLM protester with breaking windows and stealing tv's.

 

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ty’-don’t-care.583573/page-10#post-1072375697

 

Sure ... but this is nonsense! There is nothing national ... nothing organized with central structure and nothing with any head of ANTIFA USA and head of the state chapters or so.

So you are only believing this is the case, but do you have any evidence for it? Who is the Official Head of ANTIFA USA please?

 

I have no idea. I'm not even American, but as far as I'm aware, the general consensus view of conservative America is that gun rights are under threat any time the Democrats takes unitary control of government.

 

We were talking about BLM, not antifa.

 

And American women stockpile abortions whenever Republicans take full control.

 

Indeed. You said the city. While no city as a whole was burned down. You overexaggerated so much that it's simply fake news.

A black person ignoring a cop or fleeing away gets shot all the time with real bullets.
A white person doesn't even get shot when they attack a cop with rubber bullets or real bullets when they are busy killing cops.
That shows very well how racism is institutionalized in the police force.
That's my point.

You can only mean that, when you drop the BLM comparisons.

And with this, You INSIST that a BLM riot is comparable with attacking the capitol, yet fascsits attacking the capitol to terrorize and potentially murder politicians is FAR worse.

The point still stands that you can acquire the same level of order if you defund the police and invest community programs.
That you want to raise taxes to have an higher level of order is not relevant.

The DC mayor saying federal troops standing down has nothing to do with her cops not shooting at white people when they were killing cops.

Indeed. Steven Sund served 25 years as a cop elsewhere.
While I see no real distinction with other cops.

 

OK ... but same issue! Then tell me the leader and head of BLM ... who is the "HEAD OF BLM USA" please ... and name those of the local state chapters too?

 

I don't think so. Useless federal Republicans are NO threat to the availability of abortion.

 

"In 2013, Patrisse Cullors, Alicia Garza, and Opal Tometi formed the Black Lives Matter Network." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Lives_Matter

Why haven't these people condemned the riots?