Justice Roberts: Hell No! I Won't Go! To The Senate Impeachment "Trial"

I read it on the internet so you must take me at my word for it ...or research it, then wait for things to pan out

 

And a CONSTITUTIONAL PROCESS and I agree it should not be a criminal process which the Democrats are trying to make it into. That is for the Judicial Branch, so they can charge him with a crime if they believe he committed one. That is NOT within the authority of the Congress.

 

he's the biggest crook in history

 

Wrong! I'm EXACTLY on point. You get to control YOUR vote, but like most busybody progressives, you want to control EVERYONE ELSE'S votes. And in our system you are prevented from doing so. That IS the point!

 

nope, they are not trying to make it a criminal process, nor could they if they wanted too

the people arrested are saying the President wanted this, told them they had to fight or they would lose their country, Trump incited this and has no business ever being allowed to run for office again

that said, I do not think republicans will ban him from future office, but the public will get to hear the evidence for themselves and see who protect Trump's bad deeds

 

Where does the Constitution give anyone a FREE PASS for INCITING an INSURRECTION?

We the People REMOVED your biggest *LOSER* because the GOP Senators where too COWARDLY to do it when they had the chance.

All that is NEEDED now is for the Senate to vote on BANNING him from ever holding office again.

 

nope, don't want to control yours or anyone's vote, I do want anyone that wants to vote to be able to easily though, not wait in line for hours and hours

 

Any GOP Senator that votes against the biggest *LOSER* in the 2nd Impeachment will face a Primary Challenge in 2022 or 2024 based upon that vote.

Furthermore the Insurrection that resulted in the 2nd Impeachment is DEFINITELY going to be front and center in the next 2 elections given who was INVOLVED in them running for office.

 

The first wasn't, this one won't either. Those senators who vote against conviction won't pay any price. Most are from solid Republican states that went for Trump. They can say they just voted their constituents wishes.

Of the senators from battleground states, three have decided to retire than face reelection in 2022. Portman, Burr and Toomey. The rest are on solid Trump state grounds. Anti trumpers, democrats aren't going to vote for a Republican, Republicans, pro Trumpers aren't going to vote for a Democrat. So it is left to independents and their very short memory. So it will be some other hot issue, some new event or happening that will decide 2022.

With independents it will be how they view Biden and the Democratic controlled congress. what they did or didn't do. whether a majority of independents agreed with what they did or opposed what they did. Biden and company has 2 years to be held accountable to the independent minded, Trump's trial will be long forgotten. Just watch, wait and see. It's usually things that happen 3-6 months prior to an election that counts and determines how independents vote. Not something 2 years in the past.

I'm a political realist, I seen too many things happen that were called political game changers. That in 2 weeks to a month later everything reverted back to where it was prior to the so called game changer. Now if Trump is in federal court on charges next year, that very well could be a real game changer. If not, he will fade and become just a footnote in the history books.

 

In what way are the Democrats trying to criminalize the impeachment process?

 

I don't want to control votes at all. I just don't think known crooks should hold office.

 

You give the Democratic Party far too much credit. They are neither organized enough nor collectively astute enough to coordinate such a steal on a nationwide level. It would require far too many people and waaaayy too much coordination.

 

Then don't vote them.

 

Fake News. They only had to steal 4 cities. Which isn't difficult, Philadelphia and Detroit probably haven't had an honest election in a half century.

Enough is enough.

Time to clean up our voting systems:

1. Every eligible voter gets the opportunity to cast one vote.
2. Ballot security and chain of custody is of a level and type similar to bank deposits.
3. Counting is observed and recorded, with security of a level and type similar to casino card tables.

We never need to have a questionable ballot again, and Dems will fight sensible voting security as if their survival depended on it, because they are convinced they cannot win a fair election.

If you want to know if this impeachment trial is a legitimate exercise or a political show trial, watch what Chief Justice Roberts does. If he refuses to attend, it's a dog and pony show.

So many things are more important to Democrats than what is important to those they supposedly represent.

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The point is the country almost became completely dysfunctional because folks like yourself did vote for a criminal. Twice.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/dec/01/william-barr-no-evidence-voter-fraud

 

They are trying to singularly sanction him for an alleged crime. They have had no criminal referral.

 

Show Trials for made up "crimes."

 

What makes you think impeachment requires the commission of a crime?

“You don’t even have to be convicted of a crime to lose your job (as president) in this constitutional republic if this body determines your conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds in your role,” Graham says of Clinton in the nearly 20-year-old clip.
https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/article217126395.html

 

I asked you first
Where does the constitution authorize this trail of a private citizens former President? And citizen Trump if he violated the law can be charge and prosecute your "free pass" is totally specious.

Again there is no such provision, removal must occur first and then a vote on disqualification. Yes he was voted out of office and the voters should decide if he should hold office again not partisan Senators in an unconstitutional Senate trial.

 

And I'm sure we could find left-wing insurrectionists who believe supported Harris and Waters and other Democrats who aided and abetted and believed supported them.

So which of the Capital insurrectionists said Trump directly told them to invade the Capital and engage in violence? There has to he a clear direct instruction.

 

Andnif true that is the role of the JUDICIAL BRANCH not the Senate.

 

THIS impeachment is based on an alledged specific crime. And Trump is a private citizen now and can't lose the job of President.

So where is the Senate authorized to put on a trial in order to legally sanction a private citizen when in fact the Constitution specifically bars bills of attainder?

 

it's the role of every Patriot, the duty of which we witnessed a catastrophic failure across the board and is why we're here now

 

nothing says a crook can't be held accountable after running out the clock. he will be prosecuted.