ONLY masks, lockdowns, distance , and contract tracing will work

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  1. Chrizton

    Chrizton Well-Known Member

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    Fauci now says we should wear two masks. Next thing you know we are going to need to wash both hands and feet and maintain 12 feet between people to reach the double down trifecta
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Of course you can. Do you think scientists who publish peer-reviewed studies are idiots?

    They should be the last option, of course. Due to the grave negative effects (both financial and psychological). But they most definitely work to stop the spread of the virus when there is no other alternative.

    As of right now, we have better alternatives in most places. Hopefully we can remove politics from the pandemic and get people to use those alternatives. Because, if applied consistently, they work far better than lockdowns. But that doesn't mean that lockdowns don't work.
     
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    Really!

    I hadn't heard:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...he-year-fox-faux-news.583599/#post-1072365309

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ponsible-for-it.582660/page-8#post-1072325467

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ps-pardons-mean.582838/page-3#post-1072322166

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ponsible-for-it.582660/page-6#post-1072314643

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ponsible-for-it.582660/page-5#post-1072309612

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ls-responsible-for-it.582660/#post-1072305657

    ^Is there an ECHO in here?

    I think we all got it the first Dozen Times (at least) that you have posted this "underwear" thing. :bored:

    Anyway, as to the OP, obviously these steps are the only way to REALLY give People a Chance to get things "Back to Normal"

    Of course, in a Trumpian World (where people are told to inject disinfectants), there will always be those who will deny masking, say "Covid is no big deal", and refuse the Vaccine because they (sincerely) believe that the Covid Vaccine will contain a Gov't Microchip that will turn them into a Zombie.

    It is what it is.

    *Insert tinkly guitar music"*.
     
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    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We will probably need annual Covid shots, but as hundreds of millions of people are vaccinated I would expect to see the numbers of new infections to drop to a much lower number than they are now.

    FWIW, I don’t resist wearing a mask, but having immunity is the key.
     
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    We've done all that and the virus still did what viruses do. It ran it's course for the last 10+ months and now seems to have peaked a couple of weeks ago and now declining. Masks, lockdowns, contract tracing seems to have made no difference.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Uhmmm no we haven't. At least not all of us. And that's the key.
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    A pic of one many on a plane not wearing a mask who happens to be wearing a MAGA hat? That's your reply? I see the dems still revert to orangemanbad on a whim and in every thread.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Well... I could show videos of Trump claiming that they are not necessary and even mocking people who wear them. Which might explain why it's the guy in the MAGA hat the one who isn't wearing a mask. But the point was that for all those people around him, wearing masks is useless to stop the pandemic unless EVERYBODY in that plane wears them. And that is one thing we haven't tried as a nation.

    BTW, that Trump is "bad" (to use your euphemism) is not "reverting". It's "evolving". And be prepared for more and more facts illustrating this in the future. Euphemisms will not save him from being held accountable for his crimes.
     
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    In fact, it is not an opinion at all.

    Let me teach you something about opinion. Opinion is acceptable in the absence of fact, not in conflict with it. You may quote me.

    Peace
     
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    Of course it is an opinion. He says that lockdowns slow the virus. In order for that to be fact he would have to compare it to the same time frame without lockdowns. Not possitlvle He wasn't stating a fact. He was stating an opinion because there is no fact. I hope I taught you something.
     
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    No I think they haven't been able to compare disease spread for the same time frame in the same place with and without shutdowns.

    The alternative is to fight the virus the best you can without introducing a new unrelated crisis to the existing crisis.

    They certainly work. They destroy the lives of millions of people.
     
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    your posts are not intellectual enough to teach. They are wanting in intellect.
     
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    Sorry you can't follow them.
     
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    Nonresponsive garbage, not surprised given the source.
     
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    Fiction.
     
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    Sanskrit Well-Known Member

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    Your OP is nothing but opinion, 0 facts within... none. Irony.
     
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    Sounds good. Great "Contribution" to the actual OP topic.: bored:

    Anyway, back to the actual OP Topic, I feel the OP is spot-on.



    Carry on.:salute:
     
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    Oh and I guess Biden gets it....
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    1 year with Trump as Pres dismissing the Virus

    430,000 Dead Americans bodies piling up so Fast that Funeral Homes have waiting List

    Yep ............... Let those who want to put Life over Party have their ways ............ they won't be with us Long

    Makes Elections must easier to win
     
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    So you still believe in Aristotelic science which was based on induction and not deduction. It would require too many lessons in epistemology to explain to you how modern science works. But let me give you a hint: it would NOT require comparing the disease spread for the same time frame in the same place with and without shutdowns. That's how science would have worked at the time of Aristotle. So you're only about... 2400 years behind.

    That would be, by far, the best alternative. But that doesn't mean that lockdowns don't work.
     
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    maybe so, but that might not be necessary if everyone got with the program.
     
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    thanks for carrying the discussion in this thread.

    wearing a mask is not a political statement. it is an iq test.
     
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    Which program is that? Surely you are not speaking of the one that has failed us thus far.
     
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    "we've done all of that"?
    Social distancing? NO
    Masks? No
    Washing hands? NO


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    Just refuse the vaccine so that there will be more doses available for those who want it
     

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