If impeachment fails,14th Amendment Section3.1 for Trump removal.

Probably. My main concern is not that he would be interested in the information but could see it as an asset to whomever he wants to sell certain information. And, in turn, anybody that thinks he has (or can access) certain information will want to get too cozy.

Beyond that, it's more than clear he doesn't care about America or the American people. A buck is a buck.

 

Whether you like it or not Donald Trump is an ex president. He's gone. Get over it.

 

That is true. I forgot about that meeting he had in the Oval Office with the Russians, no American journalists present, where he boasted about firing Comey and revealing intel sources. So, yes, Biden should eliminate this courtesy to Trump.

 

But, he still wields power and that should be of concern.

 

Not in the federal government he doesn't.

 

You don't believe he has any power of some members of the Senate even now? If not, why are so many of them hesitant to hold him accountable for inciting a riot? The Republican Party has clearly not washed their hands of him and he's not done by any means. That might mean a new party or a total restructure of the current one, but it's hardly over.

 

killer, What I meant was our other ex presidents who all seem to get along well have no love for Dirty Donald and would not seek his friendship.

 

Because he didn't incite a riot and it's unconstitutional to impeach a citizen. What the republicants decide to do is their own business. If Trump decides to start his own party then that is his business. Why are you DCP disciples so afraid of Trump. He's gone.

 

Historical revisionism doesn't change the fact that he incited a riot.

Beyond that, I'm not a DCP disciple. Nor am I afraid of Trump. I'm concerned about his rabid fan club.

 

And the facts and legal precedent says he didn't incite a riot. As far as his fan club goes it's their choice. DCP disciples and worshippers of Traitor Joe concern me.

 

Well it's worth the trade since it would also remove half the Democrats in congress who supported the insurrection in Portland Seattle and many other cities.

 

Ok that might or might not be the case. I'm not able to see into the future. I can't stand Traitor Joe as much as you can't stand Trump. The fact 9f the matter is I don't like Trump's personality and disapprove of a lot of what he did in his personal life. I'm not hanging out with the guy and wouldn't if I could. I do like where the country was under his administration. I didn't agree with everything but I did agree with most of it.

 

No more so than any other ex-president. Your dislike of him doesn't change that.

 

Can you smell their fear? They hated the guy for beating them at their own game then they worked non-stop with unconstitutional methods to overturn, then to nullify his election. FINALLY, they executed the nuke by cheating an election.
They never seemed to twig to the fact that half the nation supports not HIM, but his goals for our nation. They ALSO have failed to grasp that every attack against him, actually strengthens his support. They simply are unable to imagine that anyone could be stupid enough to want to put AMERICA FIRST.
The actions being taken by the THIEF IN CHIEF are going to crater this economy so totally that people will have to crawl to the Feds to survive. If they think Americans won't notice the stark differences between 2017/18 and 2024, they are just fools.
I expect Republican state legislatures to keep investigating the 2020 debacle and where capable, creating solid barriers to protect the one in 2022 and forward.
There is a growing call to research and coordinate a Secessionist movement. Texas is the first in line but the other Red States will follow and if the Democrat Party steals 2022, they will create an unstoppable force that will demand and achieve separation from the Feds and a total rebuke of their edicts. Where 2A is concerned, it's already happening.

 

So you are saying YOU do not believe in the United States of America?????

 

Anetica? Of course I believe in the constitution but the bastardization of it by the Democrats not so much.

 

The ONLY thing dirty Donald ever put first was himself. He worshipped only his own graven image.

 

Name one president that didn't. They are all a bunch of narcissistic donkey voids.

 

Oh give it a rest the Dems made it all about DJ Trump from the moment he came down the elevator.

 

Impeachment is a political process, not a legal one, Just because the Senate holds a "trial" doesn't mean the same rules are in place as in our courtrooms. After all, if we went with your argument above, all the other legal rights and responsibilities of the defense and prosecution would also apply, and of course they don't, and I'd venture a guess you wouldn't want them to.

 

It takes a certain personality type to run for and accept a high power position in government. However, I can't think of any former (or current) POTUS that basically trampled the Constitution and encouraged his followers to do the same.

 

If it is not a legal one then why have all the court trappings of judge, jury, lawyers, witnesses etc,etc.

 

More self serving nonsense. Did not happen availing yourself of constitutionally provided remedies is not trampling the constitution.

 

It's not double jeopardy. Impeachment/removal trial is not a criminal proceeding. The Constitution explicitly permits criminal prosecution:

Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.

 

He has to be convicted before the 14th to apply. He will be exonerated in the Senate. The Constitution explicitly allows criminal prosecution IF CONVICTED.