Unarmed woman is shot by Police in Capitol. The People Who Scream ‘Police Brutality’ Don’t Care.

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  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    SENSIBLE people who want to wait for the investigation to run its course, just like they did with George Floyd, Rayshard Brooks and Jacob Blake, but I'm guessing you aren't one of those people.
     
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    there was video, we saw what happened

    if there was no video, I would agree with you

    people that want to divide us would defend her actions and make her out to be a victim at this point
     
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    There was no video for George Floyd, Rayshard Brooks and Jacob Blake?

    Which is no different to what the left do with unarmed black people who have been killed.
     
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    That's pretty much the entire MO of BLM -- dividing the public with racial tension. About half of the "victims" they promote were found to be violent criminals.
     
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    HALF? Isn't that being too fair?
     
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    There are legitimate cases of police abuse. Even Floyd's case was cause for outrage. Floyd himself was a violent criminal, but the Minneapolis PD was using a technique that they shouldn't have.

    Granted, I don't think that the officers in that particular case should be imprisoned. That technique of the knee against the throat was approved and used in training of the officers. The real problem is that the department considered this a reasonable technique. Floyd's family should sue that police department to get compensation, and the technique should be banned from police use.
     
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    Well if the only problem with it was that the Minneapolis PD was using a technique that they shouldn't have, then the officers will be found not guilty.

    Well there is the conflicting autopsies. One which says that he had enough Fentanyl in his system to kill a horse. There's a chance that it could be deemed that the knee wasn't the cause of death, but rather the extended period of time that Floyd was on his stomach, which is not a helpful way to breath obviously. OR it could be deemed that he would have almost certainly died that day even if he didn't meet law enforcement. We know from very much unreported footage that he had he said "I can't breath" long before the cops touched him.
     
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    My point is that there is no such thing as VERBALLY PUSHING back on people! And Maxine Waters told people to PUSH back on people!

    Just like Trump never made a speech in front of a crowd to go RIOT!

    And if Biden said that he loves people who fight for the BLM cause, I'm sure that you would say that this means that he loves the looters and rioters! :roflol:

    You can believe this while STILL saying that the far left is bad, but you just can't do it! When I asked if the far right AND the far left are bad, you said "nope!" :roflol:

    You can believe this while STILL acknowledging that LIVELIHOODS were destroyed during the summer BLM riots!

    Saying "there was violence on both sides" does not mean that the murder of the girl was on par with the violence on the other side! I AGREE that the violence on the right was worse at Charlottesville, but you cannot agree that the violence on the left was bad AT ALL!
     
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    I didn't SAY that the city burned down! If I did, then quote me!

    You go prove that the DC Police are racist.

    You have cooked up your OWN theory of why cops don't shoot white people. We each have our own theory. So I guess we're both equal?

    So ZERO rioters were killed by police? You clearly aren't aware of Ashley Babbitt who was killed.

    None of this changes the fact that you are defending the BLM riots! You still haven't said that they were a LITTLE BIT bad! :roflol:

    Nope, it doesn't have to be at the expense of non-related other area's. The government can simply increase spending.

    I didn't say that cops were ordered to de-escelate! If I did, then quote me! I said that there were CALLS from
    the left to de-escalate. And this seems to have influenced the DC government to reject National Guard troops.

    No, not all police departments are the same.
     
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    Unarmed woman is shot by Police in Capitol. The People Who Scream ‘Police Brutality’ Don’t Care.

    Why should they care on the grounds of "Police Brutality"? No way that term fits the reality we all saw play out on January 6th. With a few police pointing guns at a violent mob trying to force their way thru a barricaded door, with legislators being evacuated out another door, the first insurrectionist to get part way thru into the room got shot.

    Perfectly reasonable. If she did not want to get shot in the neck she should not have attacked the Capitol and taken part in a deadly riot.

    As far as I am concerned every officer who was there deserves a medal, an acknowledgement for serving in combat against Domestic Enemies of the Republic.

    I am only surprised, and frankly impressed, that those officers did not shoot more seditious, insurrectionist, coup plotting anti-Americans that day. The officers showed great restraint under incredibly difficult circumstances.

    Wow!
     
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    The only anti-Americans present were Congress members.
     
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    The US government set a precedent a couple decades ago when they made it illegal to travel to a foreign country for the purpose of engaging in sex with a minor. So despite the fact that one is not on US soil when committing a crime, the US government can arrest them, either upon return, or in conjunction with local law.

    I bring this up because you said working class. If I were allowed just one solution to help the working class, I would make our labor and environmental laws that our companies abide by here, applicable everywhere. Change the jurisdiction laws like they did with underage sex, and our companies would be forced to stop exploiting foreigners....and use us.
     
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    That's a really good idea.
     
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    This doesn't relate to the capitol riots does it?
     
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    Exactly why is Waters relevant when Donald send HIS supports out to FIGHT LIKE HELL?

    Donald told them to FIGHT LIKE HELL or lose their country. And so they did.
    That's him speechen to riot. You idea to verbally fight like hell is just the dumbest argument you're able to mutter.

    IF... IF.... but there are no IF's.
    You got nothing on him. :roflol:


    I can't do it, because not the "far right" but just "the right" is so much worse.... as in Donald chanting to his millions of followers to go FIGHT LIKE HELL, and get that country back.


    You're still demanding one way or an other to acknowledge that what the fascists did is on par with BLM riots.
    And it's just a no.

    It means it is indeed ON PAR with eachother.
    The fascists were delighted when Donald said this.
    Your opinion that it doesn't mean this, is irrelevant.
     
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    She's relevant because if you say that Trump meant PHYSICALLY FIGHT, then you have to also say that she also meant PHYSICALLY PUSH! Well, that is unless you have an INSANE double standard, which I think you might!

    So then I guess you would say that women and black people never FOUGHT for their rights! :roflol:

    Meanwhile, when I asked if the far right AND the far left are bad, you said "nope!" :roflol:

    Nope, I'm saying that you can believe whatever the hell you want, while STILL acknowledging that LIVELIHOODS were destroyed during the summer BLM riots, but you just can't do it! :roflol:

    Nope, ON PAR would be if Trump had said, there was EQUAL violence on both sides. Again, I AGREE that the violence on the right was worse at Charlottesville, but you cannot agree that the violence on the left was bad AT ALL!
     
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    are you an American, if so... wow

    the terrorists that attacked the capital on the 6th were the ones acting anti-American
     
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    I systematically contested that cities were burned down, and you systematically are commenting against this.

    I already argued that "It remains so that attacking cops, and attempting to kill them, succeeding to kill one... never lead to "I feared for my life, so I had to shoot" reaction by any cop." And all you were able to mutter is poor training, but you failed to prove it. My argument stands.

    Cops disproportionally shoot unarmed black people far more often. That's not a fluke, that's clearly part of their racist behavior.
    We saw cops behave against utterly violent white people, and as good not lift a finger against that.
    That's not "a theory".

    Lies. post 483:
    "Oh I condemn them riots. I just keep on pointing at that YOU drag in BLM riots AGAIN and AGAIN, to compare breaking windows and stealing tv's to attacking the democratic core of the US... as if it's all and the same."

    And you're still pushing that fascist agenda of comparing.

    And so raise taxes. It's fine you want it, but that's not what the idea behind defund the police is.

    You said so in post 84:
    "The Mayor of DC ordered that police change their procedures after the BLM protests! Remember the calls to "DE-ESCALATE?"
    You have failed to prove these so called orders were the reason why cops did not shoot when fascists were busy killing them.

    On average.... it remains so that they are racist. I already proven that with that source of millions of traffic stops where they conclude that, AND how white people get away with drug related crimes with over 300%.

    You made no case how DC cops are different.
     
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    I don't have to say an other person meant the same saying something else.
    That's just NUTS. lol

    Point remains: there is NO such things as verbally pushing like hell to take your country back.
    That can only meant to be physically.

    Also.. you got nothing on Biden.

    Already responded to this that you're dishonestly taking 1 word out of context.
    That's all you're good for.

    You're just dragging this again to make fascists attack the Capitol to look equally bad as BLM riots.


    You're refusing to comment on that your opinion is irrelevant while the fascists were delighted to hear this.
    And it's not as if Donald said the violence was unequal.
     
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    You mean present at the riot?
     
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    With very few exceptions, I consider anyone in Congress to be my enemy. Rand Paul and Mike Lee are among the few exceptions.
     
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    What about the rioters - were they not anti-American?
     
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    Some Antifa rioters can be seen that way. The rioters in this protest seem to be Antifa types, so maybe.

    I wouldn't say that rioting in and of itself is anti-American, unless the motivation is specifically hatred toward the public.

    Hatred toward this monster of a federal government we have is what I would call patriotic in the same way that the Founders hated the British government.
     
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    What if the motivation is specifically hatred toward the government, for a stupid reason?
     
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    Given how many good reasons there are to hate the feds, I'll take what I can get. But yeah, this wasn't an insurrection. We might yet see a real one though.
     

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