The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election

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  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Try actually answering the question dude. They didn't protect democracy they raped it. They protected democracy here the same Putin's secret police protect 'democracy' there.
     
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    Nothing patriotic about. It was a straight up power play from the word go. From the constant lies about covid and the war against the middle class they engendered, to the constant lies about the Trump foreign policy successes it was all about power, them getting it and we the people losing it.
     
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    What constant lies about COVID?
     
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    That Trump wasn't doing enough when he was doing all he could, that shutting down out door and all other dining and as many small businesses as possoble was essential to ending covid. It wasn't but it did help to starve the Trump campaign of funds
     
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    Trump won
    :flagus: Lost

    get over it


    BTW how did Biden get boosted from a third tier candidate to . . . ?
    speak clearly into the microphone, please
     
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    He definitely could have done more. Maybe not treat wearing a mask so cavalierly. Maybe not second guess and bash the infectious disease experts, you know, what with all of his expertise in infectious diseases and all. Maybe not say COVID will miraculously go away when the weather gets warmer. Maybe not say COVID is very much under control in the US on Feb 24 2020. Maybe not say, on Feb 26, 2020 that the 15 cases in the US within a couple of days is going to be down to zero. Maybe he shouldn't have said such things given he was well aware when all this started how bad COVID would be according to HIS quote...“It’s also more deadly than even your strenuous flu... This is deadly stuff”.
    Can you show me any quotes of anyone saying "shutting down restaurants, etc was essential to ending COVID"?
     
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    Why would I
    Didn't bash either. Well apparently a lot Democrat governors and mayors certainly thought it did at least until Biden won because that's exactly what they did.
     
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    Incorrect again. My state (blue) is not open to full capacity regarding restaurants/bar for example. If it was JUST about "making the economy bad for Trump", restaurants/bars would already be at 100% capacity again. So there's that.
     
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    IMHO saving democracy and preventing voter fraud is very patriotic, but you have right to think otherwise. What constant lie you are talking about? This lies?

    February 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”

    February 25: “CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.”

    February 25: “I think that's a problem that’s going to go away… They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.”

    February 26: “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”

    February 27: “One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”

    March 2: “You take a solid flu vaccine, you don't think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?”

    March 6: “I think we’re doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down… a tremendous job at keeping it down.”

    Mar 27 tweet: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1243407157321560071
    Just finished a very good conversation with President Xi of China. Discussed in great detail the CoronaVirus that is ravaging large parts of our Planet. China has been through much & has developed a strong understanding of the Virus. We are working closely together. Much respect!

    Out of about 220 countries for a few month the US under Trump occupied number 200 relative to number of infection/death per capita.

    Here is the timeline of President Trump actions



    So these are the lies you talked about?
     
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    Are you kidding ? What appeared true in early February had changed drastically by the beginning of March what we thought was true in early January was no longer true by the brginning of February. The trouble with novel viruses is that you are constantly battling against ignorance what appears true 1 minute becomes false the next.
     
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    We're all on the losing side. Some of us just haven't realized it yet. Don't worry, you will. How you liking the way gas prices jumped 30¢ in the last month?
     
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    If you have to work behind the scenes to keep it alive it isn't democracy...
     
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    I am not joking, President Trump was lying or joking:
    https://khn.org/morning-breakout/tr...ed-virus-dangers-in-early-months-of-pandemic/

    I trusted scientists, so I was not surprised that President Trump was lying.
    When President Trump said we re doing great with the corona virus fight - I checked the John Hopkins University site and found that out of 220 countries the US in number 200 relative to number of infections/death per capita.
    The troubles are not with viruses - the troubles are with poorly educated Americans who don't trust science.
     
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    That the Trump lost the election, and then either through a psychotic break or willful misinformation, has been insisting that it won. The the election was stolen from it. That is the fraud.
     
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    What are you talking about, “we the people”? Republicans are in the minority, have been for some time. The majority of “we the people” are quite pleased that the Trump, and its insanity is gone. Good riddance.
     
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    Who cares, once one has gone all electric.
     
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    Kind of like reality? Always changing to fit the situation.
     
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    Dude the scientist were saying different things in January and then in February and then in March. Saying we are going to beat this thing isn't down playing it. Never forget Fauci was against masks before he was for them...
     
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    Yeah right anything you have to work behind the scenes and hide relevant info from the people to make happens smacks more if a police state than Democracy.
     
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    Yawn.
     
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    OK, I understand - President Trump convinced you he didn't lie and his fight with the corona virus was fantastic, perfect and wonderful. He is a f***en genius!
     
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    Actually gas prices represents a nearly 15-cent increase from a month ago and a 3-cent increase from the same date a year ago. And have risen 34 cents since the beginning of November.
    The cost of crude oil has played a major role in the increase. AAA said growing crude prices will continue to cause higher prices at the pump in February

    The country’s economic recovery from the COVID-19 pandemic is also playing a role in prices you see at the pump. Patrick De Haan, an analyst for Gas Buddy, said it is “inaccurate” to blame President Joe Biden on gas prices, as the trends preceded him..

    “The market is going up due to COVID. Oil’s plummet last year and the corresponding crash in demand that’s now recovering is the major factor,” De Haan said Sunday. “Not ‘regulations.’ And there are only supply concerns now because COVID decimated oil demand last year and that demand is coming back now.”


    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article249089530.html
     
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    I answered it. No one in their right mind would scream bloody murder protecting our democratic process.

    But believing it was raped, lets you scream bloody murder and there's been no evidence of any election malfeasance that could affect the outcome.
    trump failed to provide evidence.
    Barr said there was not enough fraud to change results.
    Krebs said this was the most secure election in history.
     
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    How is it behind the scenes?
    The whole story is documented.
     

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