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In fact, examples of massive vote fraud are exposed during every election cycle.
I have shared many of them on this thread. I suppose the truth can be very inconvenient and painful for political partisans.

Here is yet another example:

"* Of the 46,000 registered in both states, 68% are Democrats, 12% are Republicans and 16% didn't claim a party.
* Nearly 1,700 of those registered in both states requested that absentee ballots be mailed to their home in the other state, where they are also registered. But that doesn't raise red flags with officials in either place.

Efforts to prevent people from registering and voting in more than one state rely mostly on the honor system."
THE DAILY NEWS, EXPOSED: SCANDAL OF DOUBLE VOTERS, With debate over the 2000 election still raging, thousands of people illegally register in both New York City and Florida, which could swing an election., By RUSS BUETTNER, DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER, August 21, 2004.

This in an election that the DP contested all the way to the SCOTUS.

 

In fact, massive vote fraud is exposed during every election.

"A North Jersey man posted a photo on Facebook on Friday of a large quantity of mail that includes a multitude of ballots, strewn adjacent to a dumpster.

“Just found two to 300 lb of mail dumped in a dumpster behind one of the banks I service. Including at least 200 ballots,” said Howard Dinger. “This is the kind of stuff you just can’t make up. And yes it was reported to the local police and the postal police.”
THE NEW JERSEY GLOBE, USPS confirms ballots were dumped, said they have been delivered,
By David Wildstein, October 04 2020.
https://newjerseyglobe.com/campaign...ster-gets-no-response-from-usps-local-police/

 

there is no evidence of massive election fraud in the 2020 election, as Trumps DHS, trumps DOJ, trumps Attorney General, republican secretaries of state, republican governors, all 50 state election committees, every single court this has been in front of (over 60), republican appointed judges, trump appointed judges, all 9 supreme court justices have all shown you

 

Wrong again. Massive vote fraud has been fully exposed during every election cycle.

PHILLY VOICE, South Philly judge of elections pleads guilty to stuffing ballot boxes, accepting bribes, Prosecutors say Domenick DeMuro, 73, inflated results for Democratic primary candidates, By Michael Tanenbaum Headshot BY MICHAEL TANENBAUM , PhillyVoice Staff, MAY 21, 2020.
https://www.phillyvoice.com/voter-f...lty-domenick-demuro-democrat-voting-machines/

 

there is no evidence of massive election fraud in the 2020 election, as Trumps DHS, trumps DOJ, trumps Attorney General, republican secretaries of state, republican governors, all 50 state election committees, every single court this has been in front of (over 60), republican appointed judges, trump appointed judges, all 9 supreme court justices have all shown you

 

Sigh...................
Trump commission did not find widespread voter fraud
https://apnews.com/article/f5f6a73b2af546ee97816bb35e82c18d

 

LOL! So what? An RP commission is not a "Trump Commission".

Again, massive vote fraud has been exposed during every election cycle. In a country where the dead and dogs are registered to vote vote fraud is inevitable

"Philly Fraud Case Expands

The U.S. Justice Department this past week charged former Democratic congressman Michael Myers with stuffing ballot boxes, bribing an elected official, falsifying records, obstructing justice and voting multiple times in federal elections in Philadelphia.

Myers was the second official charged in the scheme."
JUST THE NEWS, Yes America, there is voter fraud. These recent cases prove it.
From Frank Sinatra's hometown in Hoboken, N.J., to LA's Skid Row, dozens of mail-in, absentee and ballot box fraud cases have emerged., By John Solomon, Updated: July 25, 2020.
https://justthenews.com/politics-po...there-voter-fraud-these-recent-cases-prove-it

 

there is no evidence of massive election fraud in the 2020 election, as Trumps DHS, trumps DOJ, trumps Attorney General, republican secretaries of state, republican governors, all 50 state election committees, every single court this has been in front of (over 60), republican appointed judges, trump appointed judges, all 9 supreme court justices have all shown you

 

I keep exposing more examples of vote fraud, and you keep pasting up your denials of the obvious exposed truth.
Partisan politics requires a lot of denial.

"South Carolina election officials could have counties cut ties to a Minnesota printer after about 20 Charleston County absentee ballots were found in Maryland this week.

The ready-to-mail ballots have since made their way to Charleston-area voters, state and county election officials said, but it is just the latest problem with SeaChange Print Innovations, which prints and mails absentee ballots for 13 S.C. counties.

Some Greenville County voters received the wrong absentee ballots this year when the Democratic presidential primary and a special election for sheriff were held 10 days apart, S.C. Election Commission spokesman Chris Whitmire said."
THE POST AND COURIER, After Charleston absentee ballots found in Maryland, SC considers cutting ties with printer, By Andy Shain, May 20, 2020 Updated Jul 31, 2020.
https://www.postandcourier.com/poli...cle_1da1a578-9ad8-11ea-a600-d3ff845d1c9b.html

 

Lolwut?

What happened in Florida (over 20 Years Ago) in 2000 (which involved 537 votes, in one state which decided the entire election) isn't even on the same planet as the Ludicrously Discredited Fantasies of "massive voter fraud" in 2020.

No "Equivalency" whatsoever. None.

 

Why deny the obvious truth? Massive vote fraud has been repeatedly exposed during every election cycle.

AARP,"170 Registered Voters in Ohio’s 12th District Listed as Over 116 Years Old", By Mick Studer, 08-09-2018.
https://community.aarp.org/t5/Polit...-12th-District-Listed-as-Over-116/m-p/2040561

 

there is no evidence of massive election fraud in the 2020 election, as Trumps DHS, trumps DOJ, trumps Attorney General, republican secretaries of state, republican governors, all 50 state election committees, every single court this has been in front of (over 60), republican appointed judges, trump appointed judges, all 9 supreme court justices have all shown you

 

the amount of fraudulent votes that were found over a 25 year period in both federal, state and local elections is just a few thousand, out of hundreds of millions. Voter fraud is statistically zero. You have been corrected on this dozens of times at this point, so your continued claims of massive voter fraud are now an intentional falsehood.

https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud

 

Uh...the election really was fraudulent. I mean everybody knows this. Even Dems. I mean, why would they not want fraud issues looked into, unless they were fearful of what would be found? In case you didn't know, Twitter suspends everyone they disagree with, especially prominent people who might be listened to.

It's his money. None of my business and none of yours.

Love the pillows. And now that he's being "canceled" I'll be buying his sheets too! Buycott.

 

Lolwut?

1) There was NO "Massive Vote Fraud" (on the Fantastical Levels Dreamt about in Trump's Tinfoil Hat Fever Dreams). Period.

^That is a FACT!

2) As to this statement:

"everybody knows this".

^Well that statement would only be accurate--IF your definition of "everybody" is referring to the 1/5th of America (who lives inside the Trump/OAN Bubble and believes in Unfounded Conspiracies) as "everybody".

Recent studies show that 11% of Americans believe that Bigfoot is Real.

https://civicscience.com/bigfoot-is-real-for-11-of-u-s-adults/

So, one could imagine that it is possible that 1/5th of America could believe Trump's BS "it was stolen" fantasy.

(Let it be noted that, the 1/5 of America who actually believes Trump"s "it was stolen" fantasy are exponentially overrepresented on social media).

The other 80% of America KNOWS That the Election was Free and Fair and Secure and that there was NO "Massive Vote Fraud".

Then he (or his fans) shouldn't whine about having his Tinfoil Hat BS being removed from YouTube.

 

I'm not necessarily a "fan." I don't even know the guy. I defend everyone's free speech. Yes, even yours.

 

You said

YOU limited it to "major" election. I asked why only "major" elections.

I asked

You said

So again you need some commentary or study to confirm fraud can happen in "minor" elections? And why would it only matter in a "major" or do you agree even in small tightly won elections fraud can be just as disfranchising to legal voters and can change the outcome?

There's other numbers out there showing fraud but the fact remains the number of prosecutions only reflects fraud that was discovered and then prosecuted not the total fraud that occurs. We don't have an accurate full study and the Dems are opposing any efforts to even study what we have.

It wasn't complex in my state at all, we all voted with no problems and had the results before midnight. Registration is not hard at all. Anyone could today go to multiple sites and register. I just recieved my annual card in the mail last week confirming I am still registered and my information is correct. What is complex is when all these same day registration, unsecured mail in voting, non-verification of signatures on envelopes, rules changes in the middle of the election and all the other things the Dems tried and did accomplish.

Why would you want to force someone who is clueless to the issues and the candidates to cast a vote they have no desire to cast? What country?

"Mandatory Voter Registration — Progressives want to sign up everyone automatically without affirming citizenship or an opt-out. What they call “automatic voter registration” is really “mandatory voter registration.” Here’s why it’s a bad idea:

• Not everyone wants to be registered to vote. Forcing inclusion against their will is an act of a top-down, authoritarian government.

• It violates a citizen’s basic free speech rights, such as expressing displeasure with the electoral process by not participating. Then there’s the issue of privacy — voter registration lists are publicly available.

• It opens the door for vote fraud, because it fills voter rolls with people who may have no intention of ever voting, or transients, or college students who would be able to vote again in their home districts.

• There is no reliable way to ensure that all registrants are actually U.S. citizens. Some states now issue driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants.

• It’s the gateway to mandatory voting. President Obama has already floated the idea. Compliance could be forced through threat of fines by the federal tax system, as with health insurance under Obamacare.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/sep/18/mandatory-voter-registration-is-a-bad-idea/

 

For the first parts its just turning into a game of you said/I said, we're not going to agree on interpretations. I have stated how my responses were meant to be interpreted you chose to see it differently.

For the last part;

1) In our country (Australia) it doesn't. You are obliged to register at the age of 18 then notify the electoral role of changes of address. Under the Commonwealth Electoral Act 1918, the electoral roll (containing names and addresses) may be supplied to prescribed authorities, members of parliament, political parties, approved medical researchers, public health programs and electoral researchers. And while people sometimes get annoyed about having to vote the vast majority seem use it as a means of punishing those politicians they dislike (the most) rather than as an opportunity to elect politicians they 'like'.

2) Registration is cross checked against multiple official records (Birth Deaths and Marriages, Citizenship, passport office ad drivers license etc). There are historically low levels of fraud because everyone is registered and the vast majority vote (There is a small fine if you don't.) High levels of fraud would therefore stand out e.g 11,000 people voting in an electorate with 10,000 registered voters. Voters can lodge ballots in advance in specific circumstances by mail and may attend any polling both in the country for the purpose of voting in national elections (or State for State elections).

3) Fraud has been attempted at the local level and when detected is prosecuted. ( I was involved in once such case, said politician went to jail. So sad - not.) In general the mechanics of changing the registered voters details/locations are simply to complex to achieve in large numbers and no major political party in the country has alleged they have been the victim of widespread fraud in recent memory.

4) For the rest the effect of mandatory voting has been that political parties can't just focus on the needs/demand of their own members/supporters. In almost all elections this dynamic means they are obliged to garner support from swing voters in order win office. The net effect is to moderate policy platforms, extreme right or left wing policies don't win elections and while extreme right or left wing politicians can win office based on personal profiles in specific electorates they never achieve this feat in large numbers.

Note: I have fact checked basic details some of the above is from memory.

 

It's writing about voting in MY country and our political principles and they are all quite valid. And again we have NO NATIONAL elections, they are all state and local. With same day registration officials cannot check those records and citizens of my country are wary of national databases of the citizens. Yes fraud is prosecuted when detected but is difficult at best to detect and more so with same day registrations where there is not a chance to verify the person and while at the same time not requiring and proper ID. And the effect of having those who have no interest in politics or policy or candidates is an election by voters who have no idea for what or for whom they vote.

And again it is a matter of FREE SPEECH which we cherish in my country. If you want to do that in YOUR country have at it, I will not criticize it or tell you you should do different, it is none of my business. So give my country the same respect.

 

I am against the get-out-the-vote efforts. I didn't vote several times, because I wasn't involved and didn't feel like I knew enough about what was going on to vote fairly. I never regretted not voting; it's my right, and I also didn't complain about the outcome.

I once worked for an agency that advocated for people who were mentally retarded and other such afflictions. Every election, there was a large effort for staff to take these people to the polls and encourage them to vote. Honestly, although some were able to rationally do so and state that they wanted to, many were not, and had no idea what they were doing or why and voted the way their caregiver suggested. Imagine how much more of that there is with mail-in voting. Also, many of these clients watched TV constantly, believed whatever the TV said, and were unable to rationally discern what was likely true and what likely wasn't, let alone able to fact check for themselves. Often, if people don't vote, there's a reason.

 

What makes you think we don't value or cherish free speech? Where we differ is the application of the principal. For instance I can, if I wish say a prayer in any state run public school in the country. Can you? No. Does that therefore mean that somehow Australia has a greater right to freedom of speech than the US? Again the answer is no. It just means that for various historical and legal reasons the underlying principals are applied differently.

As for the rest where did I criticize your voting system? I merely answered your questions about Australia's voting system in comparison. Beyond that my comments were restricted to questions around the degree of fraud in the US system which I stated was very low based on published research. You can agree with that position or not, merely stating such does not however constitute an attack of the validity of the US electoral system.

 

And again it is a matter of FREE SPEECH which we cherish in my country. It's as much your right to NOT vote as to vote and the government cannot force you. I think that would indicate we cherish it just a tad more but that is for YOUR country to decide and I cherish whatever choice you make and defend your right to make it. What is good in your country is not necessarily good for mine.

And in or 2000 elections for President the final outcome was decided on a .009% margin. In 2015 who controlled the statehouse in the state of Virginia could have been swayed by ONE fraudulent vote. There are thousands of state, county and city elections and many with razor thin margins. The Dems have created this canard that voter fraud is so small it really doesn't matter so they can oppose measures to help insure the integrity of our many many many elections.

As I said the citizens of the United States never vote as citizens of the United States. We are a federal republic. Only a state could mandate some kind of mandatory voting and I don't know of any who would or plan too and it would be struck down as unconstitutional

Compulsory Voting is Unconstitutional
"...The government cannot force you to speak or to vote (or to say a prayer). While Obama may admire the small number of countries that make voting mandatory, such a requirement violates the basic constitutional rights that Americans enjoy and our most cherished liberty: the right to be left alone by the government.

In fact, countries such as Australia enforce their voting requirement by imposing fines on non-voters. In 1964, we ratified the 24th Amendment, which prohibits making voting contingent on paying a poll tax. Yet President Obama is now proposing what would in essence be a reverse poll tax on any American who decides not to vote.

It says a lot about President Obama’s political and social views that he talks about imposing a requirement that even socialist-minded countries such as Italy have rescinded. As my co-author John Fund points out, the former Italian foreign minister Antonio Martino, said that “there was finally a consensus that it was a basic infringement of freedom.”

Martino understands something that Obama apparently does not. As Martino said, “Forcing people to vote violates their freedom of speech, because the freedom to speak includes the right not to speak....

...Census Bureau surveys of non-voters also show that the president is wrong in his assessment of why people don’t vote. The vast majority of them choose not to vote because they don’t like the candidates or the campaign issues or are simply not interested in the political process. Their choice not to vote sends its own message to candidates and political parties about their relevance or irrelevance to the lives of those nonvoters.”"
https://www.heritage.org/political-process/commentary/compulsory-voting-unconstitutional

And as I said I prefer people who do take the care and concern about my country and it's policies to get registered on their own and then to go and vote, not to vote because they probably don't know enough to cast an informed vote. They have a right to but the government should not be forcing or even encouraging.

 

And that is probably doing your civic duty better than had you voted and just guessed or just by party line.

Only one time in my almost 50 years of voting have I voted absentee because I had to go to a national meeting out of town and then I went to the county clerk's office to do it. Not mail in. Every other time I went on election day to my polling place, been showing ID since I can remember now, received my ballot, filled it out and then watch it get tabulated. Never a problem.

Even the Jimmy Carter/Jim Baker 2005 Elections Commission stated that mail in voting posses the biggest threat for fraud and should be limited.

 

I mean you answered so I thought you knew

 

LOL! You keep parroting nonsense about "republicans". While ignoring all of the evidence of massive election fraud in the US.
Surely you know by now that most Trump supporters are Independents and Democrats.

“The states that told The Associated Press they had been targeted included some key political battlegrounds, such as Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin.

The AP contacted every state election office to determine which ones had been informed that their election systems had been targeted. The others confirming were Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Illinois, Iowa, Maryland, Minnesota, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, Texas and Washington.”
ASSOCIATED PRESS, Federal government notifies 21 states of election hacking, 9/23/2017.
https://www.apnews.com/cb8a753a9b09...rnment-notifies-21-states-of-election-hacking