I have changed my mind... I think they have a good criminal case.

Actually the saddest part is they are all witnesses to the flipping crime!

 

Trump was briefed on the dangers to Pence and other Congress members, and instead of acting to stop them, he said, oh really, and incited them

even after the attack started, Trump refused to do anything to stop it and continued to provoke them

Pence had to finally get the guard out there, Trump refused too

 

It started long ago but has festered into a boil. Reagan was the first they tried to bring down and I remember how they went ballistic when Rush Limbaugh caught the attention of the American people and there were those who wanted the Fairness Act implemented to counter act him. Off course it only applied to conservative talk radio. They have successfully been able to take God out of the schools remove vestiges of Christian traditions from public displays. They now try to re-write history with the abolishment of statues and names from schools and other buildings they consider offensive. They now try to destroy lives of those who do not tow the party line through social media and boycotts of those they oppose. Will it be long before they find crosses and the Star of David in cemeteries offensive? Already they are going through the dictionary and changing the lexicon of what words people should use. May you always be Free in thought, word and deed.

 

The scam was set up for a lot longer than 2 months. The insurrectionist-in-chief was hedging his bets in case he lost and because he believed he was in danger of losing the election.

 

I don't think so. It is not a matter of Trump at the moment but how the opposition has gone about to bring charges. You cannot charge someone without due process even if you argue this is not a trial. Trump is a civilian and to impeach him now is unconstitutional and if taken to the Supreme Court will be upheld as such. I have not watched one minute of this impeachment because It does not fall under the guidelines of what the Constitution says. If they convict Trump then they need to convict a whole lot of other people for incitement of violence that are sitting representative's and Congressmen.

 

I have a feeling the House managers have a big surprise in store for us today. They've been absolutely brilliant the last two days and I just think they've saved the best for last. I think today is when they put the final nail into Trump's role in this terrible terrorist attack on the Capitol by Trump's supporters. We'll see.....

 

I agree wholeheartedly. Another thing worth mentioning.... We have witnessed four years of "weaponized" government institutions, as well as a media that is merely a prop for leftist Democrats. It is evident due to the efforts they put forth while not supplying any real evidence in the end. Admittedly, for those of us who love America.....this has had our heads spinning! We have watched leftist riots burn our cities under Democrat leadership while the administration was kept from lending a hand.

This misinformation of the last four years has left a lot of us really searching for what is true. It is understandable that some have believed information that is conspiracy inspired as in the case of Representative Green, who by the way, fully understands what I have been saying. After this charade of a trial, perhaps we'll be more grounded and unified. I know that to be true

 

They won't put any nails in until the defense is heard. Don't be like "judge" Leahay.

 

Rather, he knew permissive unsolicited mail in balloting would be a tool to cause confusion and delegitimize the vote.

 

Actually no. In order for them to be inciteful, they have to have incited, which they did. In order for him to be guilty, he has to know it is likely and intend for that to happen. We can't prove that the first time - he uses them on that crowd.

 

So, you started with the "Dems and never Trumpers are biased" argument. Now, that this argument has been shown baseless, you move the goal post to: It's unconstitutional. Well, guess what, ALL Dem Senators and several GOP Senators found impeachment constitutional. Of course, you continue crying that they are all Trump haters, but the rest of the GOP Senators are all Trump lovers. That's why there cannot be an unbiased trial in the Senate, unless ALL Senators remember that the have sworn an oath to the constitution, the US, and the truth. They didn't swear an oath to Trump.

 

If you are asking should Senators be offering up their opinions to the public on guilt or innocence, I don't like it that they do on either side of this question. I agree it is improper. If you are asking about us in a forum, we are not taking this vote, and have not taken any oath that such statements might undermine.

 

NOT! A "slam dunk" would be Trump actually told people to riot but unfortunately, (I know this is tough for some of you guys to handle) but, FACTS are FACTS and he said to protest patriotically and PEACEFULLY
Get used to the word "PEACEFULLY" as you have NO WAY OUT of that rebuttal, it was said, and it was fact and all you guys have is SPIN and your own INTERPRETATIONS of what was meant

SAD!

 

I would add that criminality is not a prerequisite for impeachment or conviction.

 

Its absolutely not, but a lot of Senators and Americans think it ought to be, and its the first question a lot of them demand the House answer.

 

Is Jim Jones responsible for several suicides?

 

The Left is fed a non-stop barrage of propaganda from the MSM, Big Tech, Entertainment Media, now Sports, and in Public Education. It's pure indoctrination anymore and the weaker minds fall for it. You guys are actually supporting Fascism on the Left and you don't even realize it. It's really bizarre.

 

If you would examine my post.....where did I ask a question? All I saw was statements.

 

It's really fun the way they often interchange the word "Indoctrination" with "Education"!

 

It is really fun to watch your side thinking that critical thinking is listening to Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones. Actually, it is not fun, it is destroying the US.

 

Pelosi was asking why the nation was not engaging in an uprising, and then we had months of violence. During the violence we had members of Congress referring to LEO as Nazis, brown shirts, etc.. and we had violence. There are literally dozens and dozens of just elected politicians alone, who spoke on TV and tweeted which incited people to violence, all thru the year of daily violence and billion dollars of destruction and death.

Trump's supporters had always supported the police, and never acted out in violence before Jan 6th. So how was he supposed to know, or even assume they were suddenly going become violent and assault the police?? The Democrats on the other hand knew that there people were carrying out riots every day, and they still spoke in incendiary words and incited violence.

 

Well then, listen to Don Lemon who, during the daily riots said "we're going to have to blow up the entire system."
Or Chris Cuomo who, during the daily riots said "Please, show me where it says that protests are supposed to be polite and peaceful."

Where has Tucker said anything similar to them?

 

Nonsense, he was inventing a conspiracy theory as part of his agenda.

 

Great, Now all you need is a crime!

 

Well, no.

"Despite what Trump’s supporters say, however, the president can commit an impeachable high crime without violating the federal criminal law. To conclude otherwise would be to ignore the original meaning, purpose and history of the impeachment power; to subvert the constitutional design of a system of checks and balances; and to leave the nation unnecessarily vulnerable to abusive government officials."
https://www.lawfareblog.com/must-impeachable-offenses-be-violations-criminal-code