Questions about Jan. 6 incident

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  1. Bridget

    Bridget Well-Known Member

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    Was the "riot" planned ahead of 1/6?

    If so, why wasn't federal law enforcement prepared??

    How did Brian Selznick die? We've all heard he was killed by a rioter hitting him with a fire extinguisher. Yet, there seems to be no footage of this happening, which seems odd when about a thousand people seemed to have their phones running that day.

    Does anyone have video of this happening?

    Where is the fire extinguisher? Seems unlikely that someone carried it out with them.

    Do we have the identity of who did this? If no video and no perpetrator, how do we know it happened? Since he was the only person killed directly by rioters, these seem important questions.

    Why has his autopsy not been made public?

    And why, afterward would he tell his brother by phone that he had been pepper sprayed a couple times, but was fine. Seems odd that, if he was beaten with a fire extinguisher, to have left out that part.

    The truth is always important, whether convenient or not.
     
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    I read he died by a stroke or heart attack.
     
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    His name is Brian Sicknick.

    The police usually don't share all the information about a crime currently under investigation. This means that there could be video evidence of the attack on Officer Sicknick that has been made public.
     
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    His name was Brian Sicknick. They are now thinking that the BEAR SPRAY used by one of the insurgents may have killed him.
     
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    You didn't even have the common decency to look up his name?
     
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    He collapsed shortly after his encounters with the rioters. They have been trying to figure out for the past month exactly what killed him. It definitely was NOT from being struck in the head by a fire extinguisher.
     
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    Dudes brother said he had a stroke and funny thing is suddenly the capitol cops, autopsy report is top secret. If you don't smell a whole pile of fish - really old fish - in all of that you must have covid.
     
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    Another question I'll add: Why is the identity of the capitol policeman who killed the woman not being made public? In a way, I can see why they wouldn't release details when a cop kills someone, as it could put them in danger, but they sure released the identity of the guy whose knee was on George Floyd's neck fast. Just sayin'.
     
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    The family says they were told it was a stroke. That in fact he had returned to the station and has texted his brother he was OK. He was NOT rush to the hospital from the Capital as the MSM reported.

    "More to the point, unidentified law-enforcement officials told CNN of findings by medical examiners that Sicknick’s remains bore no signs of blunt-force trauma and that the fire-extinguisher account was not true. There is video from the day of the siege of an incident in which a rioter hurled a fire extinguisher at security personnel. There has been no public claim, however, that Sicknick was involved in that incident.

    It appears certain that Sicknick was not rushed to the hospital directly from the Capitol. Several reports indicate that he returned to his police office. Hours after the siege ended, he texted his brother to say he had been “pepper sprayed twice” but was otherwise “in good shape.” Tucker Carlson notes that, according to the head of the Capitol police union, Sicknick had a stroke. That is consistent with a report from KHOU in Houston regarding what the Sicknick family was told about how the officer died."
    https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/02/what-happened-to-officer-sicknick/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=NR Daily Monday through Friday 2021-02-11&utm_term=NRDaily-Smart

    The Democrats made statements of fact that the officer was bludgeoned to death by Trump supports and Trump is responsible for murder and even list that in the Article of impeachment. It's a lie and a slander.

    Are they going to withdraw the article now? Does Trump have a law suit. When did the House managers get this information what fact knowledge were they use do declare Trump is repsonsible for a murder. Shouldn't they be required aat the least to have a police report stating a murder occurred?
     
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    The Democrats have been calling it murder and blaming Trump evn listing it the Article of Impeachment. Why did they do that before the investigation? It's been over a month where is the autopsy report.

    He died of a stroke hours later at the station after havinge texted he brother he was fine.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2021...ough Friday 2021-02-11&utm_term=NRDaily-Smart

    So how are the Democrats going to go back and extract all those allegations from their presentation and will they admit the rioters killed no knead opposed to BLM and Antifa deaths by insurrection?
     
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    "Was the "riot" planned ahead of 1/6?"

    Doesn't change anything either way 1/6 was the culmination of months of inciting rhetoric..... honestly what legitimate reason is there for the losing candidate to have a rally on the same day and same place the winner is officially announced?

    "How did Brian Selznick die?"

    How would that change the fact that he was on duty and in the chaos and died after? Seems like grasping at straws AND kinda goes against the thin blue line narrative the right has been championing
     
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    Let's say you unknowingly have a bad heart would fighting off a mob be good or bad for said heart condition?
     
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    Let's say theres no evidence that he ever fought anything off so there's no evidence to support your supposition, however we do know that he was dealing with 435 of the worst hypocrites on earth along with their staffs, so stress induced stroke is probably an occupational hazard. By the way there are rumors that he may have been a Trump supporter, a perfectly natural reaction to a career spent dealing with the dregs of the DC establishment.
     
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    The WWE riot at the Capital was staged complete with clowns in makeup. You can tell by the pics. The cops let the group in. There weren't even that many people there. we saw much worse at the Capital this summer.
     
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    Well, we know that Hannity has sent out the talking points for the MAGA crowd today, this is the second thread with
    the same theme about the riot being an "incident" and the police officer that was injured wasn't really injured and
    just slipped in the shower ... sick assed-crap flowing from the stuck up toilet that is the right wing media talking heads
    and the Orange One's apologists.
     
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    It is highly likely that the events that day were planned. Certainly many good people planned to go to show their support for Trump. Likely the good folks were infiltrated by agents provocateur, just as Occupy Wall Street was infiltrated, and pretty much every other group over decades that dissented from official narratives. Infiltration of targeted groups is how law enforcement does things. Since 911 FBI has infiltrated mosques and communities, enticing the down and out with promises of firearms and more. That's how they do it.

    My suspicions are corroborated by the response of the MSM. They now do endless repetition of the official narrative. It is being repeated as often now as the official narrative of 911 or Sandy Hook were repeated incessantly. As Bernays and Goebbels noted, endless repetition of falsehoods makes them become true in the public mind.
     
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    But the bottom line is that in all probability, if the thugs had not staged the insurrection, Sicknick would probably still be alive.
     
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    That really is the question, isn't it? My wife and I knew and exchanged comments a good week before (Jan. 30-31) the insurgency that preparations were required and we agreed that a large National Guard presence to back up the Capitol police was necessary. So we were appalled when we saw that there was really no significant preparation.

    So the answer to your question is that it was planned and announced ahead, and that is how we knew about it a week ahead. The talk was very concerning. And regarding preparations, I have no factual answer although I have personal opinions like anyone else would.
     
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    So you think 9/11 and Sandy Hook were what? Government/MSM conspiracies?
     
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    Why did former President Trump say he loved them if it was staged?
    Was he in on the hoax?
     
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    For sure. There have been quite a few people killed in political demonstrations of one sort or another that would be alive had they not been there. I don't see the point.
     
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    It sounds like pretty common knowledge at this time that Brian Sicknick (sorry I got his name wrong) was not killed by being beaten with a fire extinguisher. Will the news outlets that reported this be retracting it then? Because the facts of this case matter.

    Thank you for your honesty. Which means it could not have been incited, at least not on that day.
     
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    Yes, it was planned ahead of 1/6. Which shows that Trumps 1/6 speech did not cause the riot.

    As for your 2nd question. We can only make assumptions.

    No one actually knows. I've heard stroke, I've heard about the fire extinguisher, and I've heard he died due to bear spray. Due to the fact that we don't know how he actually died I can only assume that he is just being used as a political pawn. Capitalizing on the death of someone in order to push a political agenda.
     
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    So your saying that he wasn't on duty 1/6. Ok show your evidence of that please
     
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