Oregon promotes teacher program that seeks to undo 'racism in mathematics'

Pretty sure most are familiar with the mathematical prowess and intelligents of the Arabs, Persians, Chinese, Mayans and even the American Indian long before the Europeans.

 

The mathematical prowess and intelligence of the Arabs, Persians, Chinese, Mayan or American Indian has NO place in a mathematical program. Arguing about the identity of past mathematical geniuses does nothing to help a student solve a algebraic or trigonometric problem. Perhaps it is the liberal teacher's fascination with deconstructing Western civilization instead of teaching basic math principles that has caused the absolute implosion of math scores.

In one year as the leftist propagandists took over schools, their impact was felt immediately. Colossal and unprecedented drops in math proficiency. Do this for five years and you have basically removed any future for the country. "Diverse" math will never put a missile on target or keep a bridge up. This is how China wins. They teach MATH not "DIVERSE MATH".

 

This National soul-searching is fastly turning America into the shithole country President Trump was talking about. Congratulations, Democrats

 

Why, it helps turning them into Liberals!

Such a naive question

 

Nobody ever argued they did....

But what the OP is arguing is that there is a subjective answer to math problems, and there isn't.

It's right or wrong. Nothing more, nothing less.

And there isn't any race that benefits or is hindered by right or wrong answers... only people who don't know the answer and don't care to learn it.

If this was art? Cool. Philosophy? Cool. History? Eh... a little subjective, but that's the beauty of history.

Math is either you know the answer or you don't, and trying to make up excuses as to why the vast majority of the world can figure it out but not "certain races" is disingenuous...

And racist, at its core.

 

The current education system is a obsolete, failed boondoggle. Land based schools should have been sold for some productive use long ago.

 

It is junk science whether new or old. As the OP states math is objective and is not racist.

You could follow your own advice and research you clearly are lacking

 

Pythagoras was able to prove his theorem which no one in the world did before.

Mathematics did essentially spring from the minds of the Greeks, as did science.

 

I am going by their words.. Thanks.. I jumped to no conclusion myself other then their thoughts are racist as ****.

 

What hatred outside of pointing out math can not be "racist" and anyone who thinks that is probably racist themselves.

Funny the link you provided actually backs up the story if you would bother reading it.

Aka
Stride 1
Dismantling Racism in Mathematics Instruction


Math is... not.. racist.. neither is showing your work....


Here you go..

https://equitablemath.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/11/1_STRIDE1.pdf

Try not to mention Fox or insult someone in your reply.. I have faith in you.


Right off the bat

While primarily for math educa-tors, this text advocates for a collective approach to dismantling white supremacy. This school-wide approach ensures that anti-racist work is not left alone to one individual (i.e., math teacher or the director of equity), but to enlist the support and voice of all stakehold-ers in the school ecosystem.


Did you read that?

See.. Not "Fox" anything. Their own work.. Now discuss

 

Greeks too. There were cult like communities, where mathematics was treated as a religious order. The Pythagoreans were one such community. But then the Greeks and Persians were neighbors and most of what Alexander the Great conquered was Persia.

 

Claiming it is fox news is not an argument.

Your link does niot show any evidence to prove the op wrong in fact it proves the op correct.

 

But do our students feel better about themselves? Does equal failure = equal success.

 

Isn't it crazy how some people "fail up". I've seen mistakes like you are talking about. We not only do Nuclear Plant maintenance schedules, data, but also have done massive aerospace builds like the 777 in the past. The Navy is talking with us regarding using our technology for the shipyards on the East coast.

 

"An ODE newsletter sent last week advertises a Feb. 21 "Pathway to Math Equity Micro-Course," which is designed for middle school teachers to make use of a toolkit for "dismantling racism in mathematics."

 

Hi. I gave you a direct quote..

Again

"While primarily for math educa-tors, this text advocates for a collective approach to dismantling white supremacy. This school-wide approach ensures that anti-racist work is not left alone to one individual (i.e., math teacher or the director of equity), but to enlist the support and voice of all stakehold-ers in the school ecosystem"


Again.. From their own worksheets which i gave a direct link to.. Not Fox news.. Not conservative anything for that matter.. Their own work.

You want to me to explain how they think? Hell one poster claimed it was "hatred" to even discuss the topic! Talk about being defensive!

I can not do what the workshop suggests which is to devolve everything to race and white = bad.... That is their racist bullshit.

 

FFS they discuss "dismantling white supremacy" and "antiracism" while claiming math is racist and showing your work is evidence of this..


You want me to logically explain insanity?

How about this.. Back up..
"The concept of mathematics being purely objective is unequivocally false, and teaching it is even much less so,

How is 2+2 racist?

Then explain how math is different for different races.. Or how it needs to be taught differently and why.....

 

People have always believed what they want to believe, except for the few who seek the truth. As Paul Simon wrote, "A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest".
You see this with religion; what they were taught as a child is accepted as an adult. See how many people reject evolution.
This is more widespread now that, with social media, everyone has a voice. Trumpism has expanded conspiracy theories into the mainstream, so people feel empowered to believe anything that suits their worldview. No one seeks the truth anymore, and most don't have the intellect to do so, except for the scientists, and they're often disbieleved.
If you're unable to understand maths then you can say it's not true; that's your right in the society we've created.
Maybe most people will be more satisfied this way, believing what makes them happy. Like Pavlov's dogs, salivating at the bell.

 

What does the above have to do with the claim that math is racist?

 

No idea its not my claim.... How about you discuss the claim instead of demanding i explain what is bullshit?

What "old teaching methods"? Like "show your work".. How are "low income groups" not able to "show your work"?

Perhaps instead of saying everything is racist we should i dont know.. Teach......

 

I once had a job at a Job Corps center. They were upgrading their facilities, and since many of the students were in some kind of building trades training program, it was decided that students would do the brunt of grunt the work. My job was to supervise the electrical students, to make sure they wired up everything properly. In short term, it was quite obvious that a couple of students picked it up right off and were capable of doing professional level work by the end of the first day. Most did okay, as long as I clearly laid out the steps to be taken. And there were always a few who were mostly useless. I’m an engineer, not a educator, so I found it more effective to allow the useless kids to wander off and play Hacky Sack or whatever they did while encouraging those few who did well, and regulating the slow kids to clean-up detail.

I think that it is fair to say that the students who go to Job Corps do not represent the best and the brightest America has to offer. For many students, it is an opportunity of last resort. As such, they were always having these little seminars for staff. They would bring in experts who would tell us all the things we should know about disadvantaged students. To me, much of it came off as psychobabble. Central to the philosophy seemed to be, that with just a little bit of understanding, with proper training and discipline, anyone can do well. In spite of the obvious evidence to the contrary. The idea that kept coming up, that I found most silly, was where they kept insisting that people with learning disabilities tended to have higher IQs than the general population. I have always found this odd, as having a learning disability is practically the definition of a low IQ individual. The limits on one’s ability to learn and to understand is directly tied to one’s relative IQ.

In Portland, on the news awhile back, pre pandemic, it was reported that elementary aged Black students tended to do better with Black teachers than with White teachers. It may just be that those few Black teachers are just really good teachers.

Nonetheless, nationally, Black high school students tend to statistically do less well in mathematics than other ethnic groups. Perhaps it is in the way they are taught, perhaps it just is what it is.

You can not just discount FOX as the FOX story is clearly misleading and meant to inspire less than honorable sentiments. It is the reason this thread exists, the excitation of those sentiments.