World’s ‘solar and wind capital’ freezing due to snow ‘blanketing millions’ of solar panels

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  1. FoxHastings

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    I can see where you are confused if you make up names and claim these "people" said things no one really said and think they rule on science...
     
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    Only science deniers can blame the wind farms in Texas for that States failure to keep the power on. Antarctica has wind farms that don't shut down because it's cold. But it's better for the Trump loving science deniers to throw blame at the evil science believing libs.

    LOL, you can't make this **** up.
     
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    Nope, no one said any of that...and IF they did they are ALSO science deniers..
     
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    ""There have been some inaccurate accusations out there — I’m not sure if former Energy Secretary Perry made these — that renewables caused failures in Texas’s power grid,” Psaki told reporters. “Actually, numerous reports have actually shown the contrary — that it was failures in coal and natural gas that contributed to the state’s power shortages. And officials at Electric Reliability Council of Texas, which operates the state’s power grid, have gone so far as to say that wind and solar were the least significant factors in the blackouts.”
     
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    I think the tech was available, Texas just didn't use it thinking it never gets that cold to spend the extra money for it.. Pretty stupid really!
     
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    It is definitely a cost issue. The turbines that Texas invested in were not made for lower temperatures - the ones that would were far more expensive. So just like the lack of proper insulation in the natural gas infrastructure (which was recommended in a report to the Texas govt in 2011 after the last cold snap), Texas isn't investing the money required to provide their tax paying citizens the infrastructure it deserves. But hey - no regulations. So yay!
     
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    60 million people, probably nearer 80 million is you count everyone living here at any time. A 5th of your population in a hundredth of the land space. Should be easy for you guys.
     
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    I read wind farms control the minds of those near them. :eyepopping:
     
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    "Clean Coal" is only found in Utah. It's incredibly pure. The process for turning it to energy leaves zero emissions.
     
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    Electricity is not "imaginary power".
    Unreliable energy generation should always be backed up by more reliable energy generators during power failures.
     
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    Source?
     
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    Governor Covid--er, Abbott--could have at least warned people the power grid would be in trouble in a predicted cold wave, but he and other Republican governors could have had Texas stop running an isolated grid.

    Senator Canada--er, Cruz--took off for Cancun with his family. His office said his bloviating butt will be returning today.
     
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    There are more where these came from.
    1. Another "end of snow" prediction
      academic institutions which have predicted the "end of snow". ... good years like the recent snow dump had become less frequent. ... "The snow cover in the Australian alps
      time to announce the "end of snow", coinciding with the most extensive snowfall in Australia for 30 years
    2. A new "End of Snow" Prediction
      more snow, less snow, or no change, for at least the next few decades. ... The potential for snow to supply ... A new study has emerged predicting the end of snow, along with melting glaciers and water shortages
      should all wish for an end to snow. End the Ice Age. Otherwise, when the Holocene ends, we'll all be in for
    3. New Irish End of Snow Prediction
      “We’ll always get snow in the uplands and mountains, but we’ll start to see less snow in the lowland areas ... moments when scientists and advocates predict snow will end in 10 years, but even the middle of the century
     
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    We get more extreme cold weather because of global warming. See my message...

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/world’s-‘solar-and-wind-capital’-freezing-due-to-snow-‘blanketing-millions’-of-solar-panels.585124/page-21#post-1072454910

    Obviously, states like Texas can adjust to having bouts of colder weather, but it means burying water pipes, etc. to prepare.
     
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    Well, no.
    Global Warming is Causing Cold Spells

    Extreme Weather has always Occurred

    Global warming does not cause an increase in the frequency or severity of cold weather events such as colder than normal winter outbreaks of “The Polar Vortex”. The United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) reports it is “very likely” that there have been fewer cold days and nights in recent decades. The U.N. IPCC reports it is “virtually certain” that there will continue to be decreases in cold temperature extremes.
     
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    Of course you don't care! Caring would mean you have to actually look into the facts, and that would destroy your idle opinions! The decision not to weatherize was a direct rejection of more than one recommendation and warning by FERC. And it obviously made a difference in short-term profitability. And now the Texas energy tycoons just as obviously want desperately to deflect blame from them and their profits to a "safe" false target like "green energy". And the RW Texas media is coming to their rescue. Imagine what would happen if Texans found out that their suffering is the result of the tycoons' greed!
     
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    A recent paper appearing in Nature titled “Weakened evidence for mid-latitude impacts of Arctic warming“, authored by Blackport et al, refutes the global warming-polar vortex hypothesis.

    The Nature article states:

    Jennifer Francis, whose seminal work proposed that Arctic warming was leading to a wavier jet stream, predicted in 2014 that “within a few years, as Arctic amplification continues, we will have enough data to know whether or not we’re right”6.

    So, six years on, what has changed? Arctic amplification and sea-ice loss have indeed continued (Fig. 1). But predictions of a more negative Arctic Oscillation, wavier jet stream, colder winters in mid-latitudes or, more specifically, in Eurasia, and more frequent and/or widespread cold extremes have not become reality (Fig. 1).
     
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    If I wasn't likely to move in the next couple of years, I would put in heat pumps. You're definitely on the right track unless you have, say, a supply of cheap wood and an urge to chop, stack, and burn the stuff.
     
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    I'm quite well aware of the facts. I just don't think the ones that excite you are very important.
     
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    That's because RW media feeds it to you that way. Go ahead and lay out the "relevant facts" and your source for them. We'll see it's all RW media.
     
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    Even better if you couple that to ground compensation - making the earth a heat sink.

    And just to be clear, you don't actually generate 2000 watts of output. It is a measure of the energy transfer.
     
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    So you just ignore facts you don't like.

    What a shock.
     
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    Cold fusion; crude oil fused solid in unheated pipelines.
     
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    Actually, most recent was an interview on PBS. Professor stated matter-of-factly that heavily weatherized turbines would not have been a justifiable expense.
     
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    Please see #599. My view is broadly accepted.
     
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