Why are Asians so successful in racist America?

That makes two of us, but you already knew that. How's your hubby?

 

Asians are 6% of the population but represent 45% of STEM degree majors. That's science-engineering-technology-math.

Those majors are not for stupid people. You need an above average IQ to succeed in those fields and there is a reason those jobs pay more.

 

Why do Muslim immigrants have higher incomes than whites? Why would Arab immigrants have such high incomes? If America is so racist and unfair to minorities?

After 9/11, the Iraq war, ISIS and our problems with Iran it seems that America would be a crap hole for these people. Where is the oppression?

 

Serious question, do you think it's cultural, genetic or some of both that accounts for that?

 

I live in middle Tennessee. Columbia which is in Maury county. There are neighboring counties that are overwhelmingly white and very poor.

The average household income in Lewis, Hickman, southern Maury, Marshall, Giles counties is around $35-36,000 a year.

According to the doctrine of libocrats these people have privilege.

 

I gave a list of reasons for why Asians are successful in my first post.

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1. Strong family ties-. 68% of American kids grow up in 2 parent homes. 84% of Asian kids grow up in 2 parent homes vs 77% for whites, 65% for Hispanics and just 37% for blacks.
https://datacenter.kidscount.org/da...049/4217,4218,4215,3301,4216,2664/15474,15473
There is reams of social scientific research that shows a direct correlation between having 2 supportive parents and greater affluence and less chance of crime and fewer drop outs.

2. Intelligence- Asians score highest on IQ tests and SAT tests. 4.3% higher on average than whites and 22% higher than blacks. The highest paying jobs are in fields that require an above average intelligence level. Stem and business. Asians dominate far beyond their numbers in the tech fields.

3. High academic expectations-Asian comedians joke about tiger moms and the demand for only academic excellence. Again it helps to have 2 loving and supportive parents.

4. Hard work.

5. Success is individualized. Most Asians see their success or failure in life as their responsibility vs relying on help from others or blaming others.

6. Not hostile to capitalism. Some Americans grow up hostile to capitalism and business and are taught for political reasons the system is unfair to them. Asians succeed in capitalist systems and are more likely to own businesses than other Americans.

7. Discipline
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Back at you. You seem to be the one spewing hate... and "black failure" is blaming the victim if you know anything about history.

 

Thank you.

 

You cannot have it both ways. If blacks are not failing than they are not victims. Your ideology teaches people to hate one another instead of taking responsibility for their own success.

Why are blacks just about the only victims in this country? Latinos despite their hardships and difficulties have household incomes $10,000 higher than blacks. Latinos come here with very little from very poor backgrounds. They do not speak English well, some not hardly at all. Many of them are not well educated and some are not literate in Spanish. Despite their disadvantages they are doing well and the income gap with the rest of the country is shrinking with each decade.

 

For those of you sharp enough to get it you would have noticed that some groups in our country, blacks particularly contradict the reasons I listed for Asian success.

1. Strong family ties. Blacks have very poor family ties. Too many black kids grow up in single parent families. Nobody is stopping any parent from being responsible for their own children. This is a responsibility issue!

2. Intelligence. You interpret that any way you wish. Black IQ scores are typically 10-15 points lower than whites and Asians score about 5 points higher than whites. I do not make up these tests, I do not administer these tests and I do not interpret them. The people that do that are academics who almost entirely vote democract!

3. High academic expectations. You answer your own question here.

4. Hard work.

5. Success is individualized. Blacks are taught from birth that they do not have self determination because of racism.

6. Not hostile to capitalism.

I knew when I started this thread the libos would be calling me a racist. Celebrating the success of a minority group of color ultimately leads to that. But what do you expect from people who think George Floyd and Jacob Blake are role models?

 

That's a fairly accurate statement. I think the intent of your OP was not to exalt in the success of immigrants but as a way to denigrate a race that you don't particularly like.
Speaking of an ideology of hate...know thyself.

 

Denigrate? How pathetic. Are you African by any chance? I mean from Africa?

If I can name reasons one group of people are succeeding I could also name reasons why a group is not. People of all colors(Including blacks), religions and cultures can come here and kick ass and succeed but black Americans cannot? It is hard to talk about one without thinking about the other.

Stop defending lies and hate.

 

My wife is Asian by the way. Philippines. they are 4th in household income.

4. Filipino Americans: $100,273[12]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

 

You would miss the obvious point, in favor of a fabrication.

I'll try assisting you, the point is, a race a minorities cannot excel in a supposedly racist society, especially above and beyond the so called "oppressor" class.

 

Perhaps Edna missed the post where I mentioned this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

1. Ghanaian Americans: $69,021[12]
2. Nigerian Americans: $68,658[12]

Immigrants from those 2 African countries have higher incomes than whites in America. White household income is $66,000.

So Edna, this is not about genetics or pigmentation. This is about culture and attitude and self determination. These people instead of sitting in their own feces complaining are grabbing opportunity with both hands. I have been in nursing for 30 years. I have worked with dozens of African immigrants and none of them think that victimized way. They take responsibility for their own kids. When have you heard of some guy from Kenya or Nigeria who has fathered 10-12 kids and not done a thing for them?

I worked with a beautiful Nigerian nurse who told me she would not raise her kids in a black American neighborhood even if the rent were free.

I provided you with data that proves that color, religion and the level of poverty in the originating country does not matter. People can come here and succeed. So of course the question has to be asked why then can't people born here also succeed? For asking that question I get called a racist?

Kindly shove it.

 

I have found it is a quixotic task attempting to get some posters to see without looking through their bigoted lens. I think their hate is coupled with insecurity. They need to find someone that they can feel superior to. I could go on to explain why some immigrants do well. They may be the most ambitious, most intelligent, best educated, most well off of their nation and culture does come into it, but there are others that haven't done as well. Asylum immigrants are more of a cross section of their general population and for instance 40% of the Burmese here live in poverty. No doubt that will improve but the story is more nuanced then you let on. As for African American culture, it has a history of being abused, denied by those looking through their bigoted lens. At Emancipation blacks were 13% of the US population, about the same percentage as today. Nearly 100% of those freed people were illiterate and lived in poverty and the dominant society made laws restricting their accumulation of wealth, their ability to be educated, their ability to participate in government, their freedom of association and it goes on. By 1959 the black poverty rate was 55%. In my life time much has improved, altho 22% is still pretty bad, but 55% are middle class and above. When the poverty level reaches white levels (9%) will the racists shut up?
Nah

 

To immigrate to America legally, you need to have a sufficient income and good education, which eliminates undesirable immigrants with no money. Aside from green card lottery winners and asylum seekers, most migrants from Asia and Africa are rich folks in the first place.

If you have $500,000 to invest then you can apply to be an immigrant investor, where you invest in a commercial enterprise based in a high-unemployment area, to help drive employment opportunities in this area of the US.

 

Where are your links? So African immigrants are already super wealthy when they come here? Do you have links for that?

I have a link for Nigerian immigrants.

https://rapidvisa.com/country-info/nigeria/

It's about $300 for medical testing for adults and $75 for kids under 15. English is required but they speak English in that country. Another thing libocrats(See Jim Acosta) were wrong about.

Again could you provide those links that show African immigrants need to be super rich and super educated to come here.

 

Calling me a bigot will not win this argument. The issue at hand is that some groups of Americans are thriving and successful and others are not. So the simple question is why?

What are Asians doing right that they can be so successful and what might some other groups not be doing right? But no, let's just call those who fail victims and blow off Asian success as inconsequential.

A poster calls me a racist but she does not care that 13% of our country are not doing well and has no prescription for a solution other than hate and blame. What we need are more white people in poverty that will help blacks do better!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

If all White Americans were a single ethnic group they would be 61st on that list. Privilege!

The poster then cherry picks the one Asian group(Burmese) that has the lowest income levels how deep. But even Burmese Americans are doing better than blacks.

Do Burmese Americans have murder rates 8 times that of whites? Are Burmese American men fathering 10, 15, 20 children and providing no support?

 

I think IQ is significantly impacted by all the other factors the original poster stated. Many cases through history where people groups raised IQ simply by changing culture.....the white American South being one. Even a child with a low IQ can increase dramatically through simple education and studying which was the case of that Black high schooler in the Blind Side story which was taken in by a white family and went on to college and eventually pro Football.

 

I am wondering why the OP created this thread?
Was it to try to make Blacks look or feel bad?
Was it to try to make Blacks think they should emulate Asians?
Was it to try to get some ugly, xenophobic feelings off your chest?
I'm just curious.

 

Do you know any Black people personally? Or do you get all your info from movies and TV?

 

At one time Asians, especially, Chinese were treated horribly in the USA. They had no rights, couldn't become citizens, couldn't testify in court against a White person.
I'm sure they had wonderful personal qualities back then, just like they do now. But, they were still hated and oppressed.
Funny how that works.

 

Do you need high IQ for pro Football?

 

yep, then china became the world super power so now asian americans basically have coroporate america by the balls as they have access to the chinese markets. America is in trillions of debt to china which is why chinese americans are now treated with respect in america.