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In a Philadelphia elementary school, teachers are putting a premium on radicalism, not reading.

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  1. Hey Nonny Mouse

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  2. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    I wonder if a rule requiring all our thread's main articles to have at least one "backup" from at least one of several major and accepted news sites would be practical. We naturally want to avoid any kind of censorship but fake news can take a place over if you let it.
     
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    Yep. We have good schools, decent schools and some really bad ones. If you are born in a black neighborhood, there is a good chance you'll end up in a bad school, and your future opportunities are reduced at a very young age. Having said that, the "forced to celebrate communism" smells like fake news.
     
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    Esdraelon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I went to Alabama Public schools between 68 and 79 and regularly heard that we placed in the bottom 5 states or so. These days that level of education seems quite superior to what MANY kids are learning in wealthier states. There is no good excuse for that...
     
    Esdraelon, Feb 22, 2021
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  5. Pro_Line_FL

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    The problems with crime, unemployment and dependency on welfare can be reduced only through education, but for whatever reason there seems to be no interest in fixing the problem.
     
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    Its not just schools. just got an email at work about black history month to celebrate the accomplishments of women if color. They put in a blurb about Kamala Harris and NOT one mention of her being the first FEMALE VP (that is pretty big IMO), instead they just talk about how she's the first BLACK VP....this BS is EVERYWHERE
     
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    Nobody knows how.
     
    Pycckia, Feb 22, 2021
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    They do know how, but the partisan minds disagree for the sake of disagreeing.

    Well, lets say there are many models which work elsewhere, but we don't know if they would work in the US.
     
    Pro_Line_FL, Feb 22, 2021
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    What in the world are you talking about? Of course I looked up that source before quoting them...that's how I quoted them. DUH!!!!!!!!
     
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    Ever since the schools were integrated, educators have been fretting about the "performance gap" between white and black kids.

    Fifty years of innovative programs and bold ideas has not narrowed that gap.
     
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    You think that she is a good role model?
     
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  12. Hey Nonny Mouse

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    I didn't ask you if you'd looked up things in City Journal. I asked you if you'd looked up City Journal itself, as in, did you bother to check your sources for reliability.

    Because this is the second time you've cited a ridiculous source for this story. Why don't you research your sources before quoting them?
     
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    She is a historical figure and historical figures often have a troubled past. Davis has some qualities that are quite noteworthy, and as long as her whole history is not ignored, I have no problem with kids learning about her or from her.

    We learned about Ben Franklin, and he lied to the public with fake news he printed. Thomas Jefferson kept his own children as slaves. Washington and the other founding fathers insisted on things like the rights of man, equality, and individuality; yet they also insisted on keeping slavery.
     
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    The fact that it's relegated to a single month a serious problem. Why isn't it a part of the whole instead of an "oh, by the way..."? Until it's accepted as part of who we are, Black history will seem like an addendum that we have to be reminded to accept.
     
    Adfundum, Feb 23, 2021
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    It's all about how the story is told.

    V2.0--
    A fifth-grade teacher in Philadelphia designed a social studies curriculum to learn about Angela Davis, a philosopher, college professor, and author who once belonged to the Communist Party. The teacher praised Davis for her fight against "injustice and inequality."

    At the conclusion of the unit, the teacher led the ten-and eleven-year-old students into the auditorium to "simulate" a Black Power rally to "free Angela Davis" from prison, where she had once been held before being acquitted of charges of conspiracy, kidnapping, and murder.

    I'm not defending Davis or the school, just saying that the article is deliberately deceitful, making claims that can't be supported, and using inflammatory language to incite anger. It's propaganda.
     
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    Why don't you go live in a commie nation? Try North Korea. You clearly have little idea
    of how bad these guys can make your country - and your life if you are not a party
    member.
     
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    So it would be okay for a bunch of kids to demonstrate support for Robert E Lee?
     
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    First of all, I don't know that anyone demonstrated support for Davis. The provided link says so, but there isn't much else to go by, no independent verification. The only one complaining about this alleged occurrence is Christopher Rufo. I won't say that it didn't happen, but that we only have one side of the story, and it appears to be politically motivated to the point that Rufo should not be taken seriously. I don't trust his version of events.

    Having said that, you bring up a good point about Lee. I don't think he should be glorified, but he should be taught. He's an historical figure and very much a part of who we are. He was a principled man, but one whose loyalties led to one of the worst times in our history. Many students do see him as heroic, though what they learn in school is neutral.

    But I have to ask, how is Davis so different from many of the Founding Fathers? They lied, stole, committed illegal acts, kept slaves, raped, took part in protests, led a revolution, and did many things we would consider unacceptable today. Honestly, if we look at their lives, many of them were despicable and disgusting people. Is it ok to demonstrate support for them?
     
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    No it's not, nor is it okay to demonstrate support for Davis and "black power", which seems to be what happened. Did you see the below two photos?

     
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    Why did you post this other source?
     
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    What's your point?
     
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    Define "major and accepted."
     
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    I saw the photos and there is no way to verify they are what Rufo says they are. Why is there no lesson plan provided to base Rufo's claims? What exactly is taking place in the photos, and how does that fit into the goals of the lesson? Is it as nefarious as he claims, or are we being spoon-fed suggestions to fit the narrative?

    I can say with certainty that there is so much missing from all this that making a judgment about what actually happened is as good as guess work. The "evidence" provided in the links doesn't support any of the claims other than it appears the students learned about Angela Davis.
     
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    How the hell would they get hold of the teacher's lesson plan? Break into her house?

    Why do you even believe that the students learned about Angela Davis?
     
    chris155au, Feb 26, 2021
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    Old school for a small portable enclosure.
     
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