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You stand correct - I was thinking of the fall of the Berlin Wall.
I think America spends about 6% of its GDP on its military. Since 1900 the
nation has had three enemies - Fascism, Communism and Islamism (the
Islamic portion won't come into fullest expression until it is armed with
nuclear weapons.)
Without its military I suppose one of the three would control or occupy America.
Which would you prefer?

 

Until it comes for you.
Had Germany won the battle of Britain it could then have directed full force
against Russia, and won. Having control over Eurasia, and with its new
aerospace and nuclear tech it could have finished off America easily
(Germany was the first to put a rocket into space.)
And the same for Japan. Had it not stuck at Peal Harbor but instead just
occupied SE Asia then Tojo and Hitler would have told America what to do.

And until Peal Harbor the Americans were quite content to let Britain be
overrun with Nazis and to see Russia destroyed and enslaved. I find that
disgusting - particularly when its dressed up as 'foreign entanglements' as
if there's virtues in turning a blind eye.

 

Sadly the troglodytes On Board
don't "get It".
Witness our relation with Vietnam today

What diff if simply exited earlier.
Zero if not better for

 

What are you saying? That you are fine with Communists?

 

SERIOUSLY ?!

If you really knew me, you'd know how you just hit a nerve!

Russia was already destroyed and enslaved by the evil antichrist Bolsheviks !!

Before the USA officially entered WW2, FDR began sending BILLIONS of dollars of military aid and weapons [lend-lease] to mass-murderer BOLSHEVIK STALIN to defeat Hitler who was liberating Christian Russians from the church-destroying mass-murdering antichrist Bolsheviks! Not only did the USA foster the further enslavement of Russians and other Europeans to the evil Bolsheviks... the US and UK sent Russian POWs [and other anti-communist Eastern Europeans captured fighting along side Germans] to Bolshevik Stalin who executed them [Operation Keelhaul.]

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An interesting way of looking at it. This might have made sense IF Hitler had treated the slavic
population with compassion and dignity. Hitler achieved something quite remarkable - he
convinced many Russians that Stalin wasn't so bad after all.
Hitler's plan was to kill or enslave the Russians. Those hapless slavs who survived were there
for one purpose - providing the food and raw materials for the great German world empire.
And that would have made Hitler worse than Stalin, if that is at all possible.

 

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Ironically... US presidents Roosevelt, Taft and Wilson's "foreign entanglements" with revolutionaries in Russia destroyed Christian Tsarist Russia via the February 1917 revolution which paved the way for the October 1917 antichrist Bolshevik revolution!

 

You have been reading too much propaganda written by the Bolshevik victors of WW2 !!

In his 1942 Pascha [Easter] sermon, the anticomminist Archbishop of the Russian Orthodox Church in exile [in exile in Serbia at the time] said Hitler's "courageous German sword" was liberating Russian lands from the evil church-destroying mass-murdering antichrist Bolsheviks. He said Russian Christians were being resurrected from antichrist Bolshevik death!

Americans need to know when they allied with Bolshevik Stalin, they sent those Russian Christians back to Bolshevik HELL !!

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If the USA had NOT allied with and sent billions in military aid to save Bolshevik Stalin from Hitler... WW2 would have killed Communism and there would have never been wars in Korea and Vietnam!

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Sure, sending people back to Russia was a travesty, but that's not the point.
Hitler was set upon exterminating the slavs, Jews etc. in his ethnic hate. This
helped turn the tide of war as many occupied people turned on the Germans
after initially hailing them as liberators. This isn't about 'Bolshevik propaganda'
but an accepted part of the history of WWII.

And Stalin was an 'ally' only in as much as 'my enemies enemy is my friend.'
And shortly after the war things went back to where they had been when Stalin
and Hitler TOGETHER started that war.

 

That's true. But what then do we do with Fascism and its expanding death machine?
Didn't Hitler say that America would be the last enemy to be defeated?

 

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In the 1930s while antichrist Bolshevik Stalin was destroying churches and mass-murdering Christians in Russia... many Russian Christians had escaped and were given sanctuary in Germany. Hitler helped Russians build a Russian Orthodox Church in Berlin. That church still exists today and now belongs to Putin!

 

No, he didn't. Hitler knew North Americans were largely Germanic.

Hitler admired Henry Ford and had a photo of him in his office.

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But he did say that - I recall reading it.
Being 'Germanic' might be a good reason for invading - all he needed
to do as the emperor of Russia and Europe was to build his navy,
commensurate with his rocketry and nuclear ambitions. And then
get the Japanese, now controlling China and SE Asia, to help.

 

You are painting a black vs white scenario.. this is not about Military or No Military .. this is about how much.
We don't need to spend 1.2 Trillion a year on Military -- and this is the Total Spend - including the VA, homeland security, and so on.

We could easily defend the homeland on 100 Billion a year. - I was using the figure of 300 Billion per year +inflation since 2000.

Were we somehow a weak nation in 2000 .. who was bigger and badder ? .. who was a threat to us.. We went from 300 to 900 Billion in 8 years Mate .. under Baby Bush .. then topped 1 Trillion under Obama. 500 Billion/year x 16 years could have been diverted elsewhere - = 8 Trillion ..

The question is -- what did we do with that money -- did we improve our ability to defend the homeland ? ... Very little of it .. the vast majority was spent on "the war on Terror" . - messing around in the ME .. and getting no return on investment .. while the smart nations were investing in technology - infrastructure - education - ramping up their economies to compete in the 3rd millennium .. which is where the real war is being fought .. in case you didn't notice.

Pooh - we are not having a war with Russia or China anytime soon - and if we do .. it matters not .. because we are annihilated.

and guess what - we are way less safe now - then we were in 2000 - despite this massive spend. This is not through any big fault of our own .. but the nature of technology and its spread... this is a cycle in history mate .. same stuff ... different era.

The ability to destroy each other - has been increasing much faster than our ability to defend .. missile tech has advanced to a scary degree .. and now combined with drone technology.. its obscene .. and we are behind in the missile part of this technology ... somehow on 60 Billion a year .. Russia is kicking our backside .. now the Russia-India-China Consortia .. their missile tech is killer.

India had hypersonics before we did .. in fact we still don't have it .. perhaps just testing.. India .. ?! -- You can build alot of cruise missiles at 1 million a pop .. for the price of a 15 Billion dollar Carrier - plus the group - plus the op cost .. plus plus

How many do you think it takes to hit oversaturation - or what ever that term is .. and these are the sub hypersonic .. we are not yet capable of dealing with hypersonic technology coming at us..

So get out of the world of .. we need to beat them .. no one beats anyone in this game of military superpowers - the group getting more numerous as time passes ..

Oh ... yes .. so lets take this into space --- thats the ticket. Monstrous stupidity on steroids

 

He would have had one again and AQ/Taliban were crippled. Did you not get the memo that you claiming Obama deliberately armed AQ/SISI is just an excuse for you to support the Assad dictatorship?

 

Run away and hide under your bed? They'll find you even there.

 

(sigh), like what pal? Come on, give us all a good laugh, like what? What evidence is there that (9/11) was an inside job?

 

A) Back in the 1980's, the US backed up the WMD war that Iraq raged against Iran. The US went as far as selling antrax to Saddam (you know... Colin Powel showed the world at the UN how utterly dangerous it was in a presentation). They lavishly sold incredible amounts of raw materials to Iraq that could be used to make WMD's worth half a trillion. Saddam, together with the British, just build the factories to make the WMD's. And with the help of satellite images provided by the US... they used it.

B) The Senate concluded that George W Bush claims about the WMD's were misleading and not supported by the intelligence. And the The ISG (Iraq Survey Group who got sponsored by the US with 400 million bucks) concluded that Iraq destroyed its chemical weapons stockpile in 1991, and only a small number of old, abandoned chemical munitions were discovered by the ISG.




So your claims are just old GOP propaganda.

 

This is the Left wing narrative, of course. America setting up anthrax sounds like the new
conspiracy this week of Bill Gates sending fake snow to Texas. America backed Iraq after
the fall out with Iran. And today, still, Iran is the Great Spoiler in the Middle East - and soon,
the nuclear spoiler.
Making factories and selling 'pre-cursor' chemicals is one thing - making poison gas is
another altogether. You can say that America is secretly arming China because it gave that
nation the factories, the precursors and the intellectual know how for the rise of the military.

Lots of people did not believe that story of Sadaam tipping his chemicals out in the desert.
Somehow his story always changed, and he stymied the inspectors. The same game has
been going on for generations with Iran and the bomb - why don't you develop theories
about THEM????

 

We are still in Afghanistan because many people have expressed the same psychobabble you did in your post. "We need to get out, BUT..." and fill in the blank with nonsense.

 

More than you want to discuss.

 

Define "they" ??

The USA and its "foreign entanglements" helped birth Communism [WW1] and saved Communism [WW2] !!

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Which precedent is better from a defense pov?

A) if you develop WMD's we will remove you.

B) if you ACT like or THREATEN to have WMD's, we will remove you.

 

Now you are just deceiving yourself - and desperately trying to deceive others.

You know that Obama deliberately armed his Islamist Rebel Proxy Army in Syria - Al Qaeda and affiliates. Why now are you pretending that you did not already agree that this was true.

and I do not support dictatorship and do not like Assad - I support the choice of the people of Syria - the Moderates/ Non - Islamists - the one's who want freedom and Democracy.

You support the other side - the Islamic State .. and you are welcome to your opinion. I just do not share it. .