Why are Asians so successful in racist America?

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  1. Buri

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    "where you come from" could be anywhere on the planet, but ok. a lot of people react to a lot of dumb things dumb politicians say.
     
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    Thank you. That is my evidence that Trump accusing Obama of being born in Kenya, could lead to death threats for Obama.
     
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    That's no more evidence than any other dumb thing a politician has said. By your logic anything anyone at all said negatively about obama could "lead" to death threats. "Person X said Y about obama, thus death threats' carries no logic.
     
  4. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    Links?
    Yes they don't want to do anything about it, like you, which would be supporting policies preventing discrimination, etc. They would rather vilify an entire race for the acts of a few. Now what would that be called....?
     
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    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    Links as in using facts to support your claims. Like I do?

    You are totally being dishonest when you say I don't want to do anything. You are describing yourself when you talk of vilifying a race. All people like you want to do is hate. Hate white people.

    As for doing something to start we can demand that men, all men take responsibility for their own children. Kids growing up with out the love and support of 2 parents is the number one cause of poverty and crime in our society. That is not a matter of dispute we have 50 years of social scientific data that proves this. Of course black lives matter wants to destroy the nuclear family it was in their charter. Do you care? As I stated in my OP 84% of Asians kids grow up with 2 parents only 37% of black kids do. It is a responsibility issue!

    Secondly people need to understand that they themselves and nobody else, is responsible for their own success or failure. Get this idiotic idea out of people's heads that somebody owes them something. SElf determination is why immigrants are so successful. Sitting around blaming others is a recipe for failure!

    3rd, how about really acting like black lives matter? 800 black babies are violently killed inside the womb every day in this country. Some cities like NYC have more abortions than births among black folks. That is a major tragedy and your heroes in the libocrat party want more dead black babies!
    https://azcapitoltimes.com/news/2020/02/25/abortion-the-overlooked-tragedy-for-black-americans/

    I'm talking about respect for life. I'm talking about men taking responsibility for their own kids. You would have to be a vegetated moron to argue with that.
     
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  6. Starcastle

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    Zero evidence of what?
     
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    That moriahs claim that trump saying obama was from Kenya had anything to do with Obama getting death threats. He did that on his own!
     
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    And here we see the explanation for the Progressive Left.

    Though I would say it's more a case of arrested development. A desire to remain in a childlike state forever .. indulging urges, avoiding adult responsibility, refusing to do your homework, etc.
     
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    Racial discrimination was outlawed years ago.
     
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    Obama wanted people to think he was from Kenya. The bio on his book said he was from Kenya. Read it yourself.

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/promotional-booklet/

     
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    The first wrong assumption is that I don't know what links are. I was making fun of you not using links for your list of factoids after chiding me for not using a link and it is down hill from there.

    What race am I vilifying? You are member of a race but I'm not vilifying your race in general. I don't hate white people in general or specifically and I'm not convinced you want to do anything for the black race.

    Your "doing something" is boiler plate right-wing rhetoric I've read a thousand time. Do y'all get a manual at the meetings? Like I said before all they "want to do about it is point fingers, feel superior, give useless advice and focus their hate on an entire race". How do you accomplish any of those "suggestions"? Hand out instruction books? Simplistic nonsense. It's a little more complicated. Just a piece of the puzzle is the fact that 40% of single mothers are white, 30% are black and 24% are Hispanic. In Sweden 54% of mothers are single. My impression, since you lack empathy for the race, is your chief concern is crime, since that is the only thing that effects you personally. The case for single parenthood contributing to crime is weak and their economic situation is much stronger.

    I won't go on and on, but if anti-abortion people were at all serious they would be behind free reliable birth control because that is the only way to reduce the need for abortions.
     
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  13. Starcastle

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    Using bullcrap statistics now? White people are 60% of the population vs blacks who are 12.6% so I would assume there are more white single women or white people on food stamps.

    What next?

    As far as lacking empathy? For who? Criminals? 80% of America is doing fine. I'm supposed to make stupid excuses for why the other 20% fail?

    Your entire ideology has been destroyed on this board. Minorities of color doing much better than white people?
     
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    Blacks are 12.6% of our population but commit 55% of murders. I should be empathic to that?
    https://www.amren.com/news/2020/09/fbi-blacks-made-up-55-9-of-known-murder-offenders-in-2019/

    And you can take your "right wing rhetoric" and stick it. The Brookings institute is not right wing at all and their studies completely concur with my conclusions.

    https://www.brookings.edu/research/work-and-marriage-the-way-to-end-poverty-and-welfare/

    Patrick Moynihan was a democrat senator(Not right wing!) from New York and a sociologist. He came to the same conclusions way back in the mid 60s.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_N...ry of Labor under President Lyndon B. Johnson.
     
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    Blaming an entire race (the 12.6%) for the acts of a few of that race could be called what? Remember I noted that 55% of African American are middle class and above and are as law abiding as their economic peers. They are part of your 12.6% and they don't commit 55% of the murders. Why do you smear most of a race as criminals unless you can't see beyond their race (like Buri)?

    The Brookings article was good and I agreed with most of it. A major quibble was this nonsense statement "liberals have advocated increasing welfare benefits as the best way to reduce poverty, especially among single parents." The social safety net was there to prevent families from going homeless, hungry and without medical care. It was never going to get anyone out of poverty. The authors listed social programs that can help people get out of poverty and I think I can add a few more like a well run early childcare system, free long acting birth control, increased minimum wage and a free vocational training system (see the German system). I am sure you are behind all those programs that will reduce poverty and along with that the crime rate.
     
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  16. Starcastle

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    If you agree with the Brookings study then you have no reason to argue with me. I did not say a thing about welfare. Vocation training programs have been around for a damn long time in this country. They have failed miserably. Note that Trump tried to expand them.
    https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-b...ar-federal-job-training-programs-have-been-an

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-big-push-vocational-schools/story?id=53988808

    As for blaming a whole group for the actions of a few? That is your entire ideology. In 2019, 27 unarmed black men were shot by police so let's uniformly call all policing racist and all of white America racist?

    Why can't I compare crime and murder rates? If whites were 8 times more violent than blacks you would damn sure mention it 2 posters on this thread tried to make a case for white people being morally inferior.
     
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    Who is calling all police and whites racist? Many of the BLM marches are dominated by white marchers and the police are only human and some of those humans are black.
    Speaking of blaming a group for the actions of a few....Did you know over 80% of the people arrested for drunk driving are white? What is it with white people? Are white people unaware of the danger or just irresponsible? That's not racist is it?

    So you agree with the 17 year old Brookings study that low wage earners should get tax credits, expanded Medicare or Obama Care, child care subsidies to name a few to encourage employment?
    I think I brought up the German vocational model. Ours is based on predatory vocational schools that act as a money pit for tax dollars and student debt (think Trump University) with no job at the end. The German model shows how socialism can encourage and enhance capitalism. https://wenr.wes.org/2018/06/could-...on-and-training-system-be-a-model-for-the-u-s
     
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    · Why are Asians so successful in racist America ?

    ~ They try harder. It's their culture / upbringing. I suppose nobody told them how racist America is ... [​IMG]
     
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    Bingo.

    Ask a dark brown Nigerian or South Indian cardiologist why they weren't kept in poverty by 'American racism'.
     
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    http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/city.htm
    I agree with the Brookings study and many of their populist solutions.
    The bottom line is that children growing up without the love and support of 2 parents is the number 1 cause of poverty, crime and social problems in this country and BLM only wants the problem to get worse. This is from their website before they took it down.

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    White people marching with BLM are racists who want the problem to get worse.
     
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    Race-crime-politics in America.

    Chicago like many American cities should be paradise on earth for blacks and other POC. It is run lock stock and barrel by libocrats. The mayor is a black lesbian libocrat. The board of education is overwhelming democrat and the CEO is a black democrat. The Superintendent of Police is a black democrat. What more should you want? Nirvana?

    There are 77 neighborhoods in Chicago. 13 did not have a single murder.

    15 neighborhoods had murder rates 10X the national average.

    Trump averaged 1.5% of the vote in these neighborhoods in 2016. Mitt Romney averaged .8% of the vote in 2012.

    https://www.chicagonow.com/getting-...rder-map-and-neighborhood-totals-2020-update/

    The murder rate in the USA is 5.35.

    1. West Garfield park
    Murder rate 157.8

    2. Washington Park
    Murder rate 115.9

    3. East Garfield park
    Murder rate 106.5

    4. Greater grand crossing
    Murder rate 83.5

    5. Englewood
    Murder rate 76.6

    6. North Lawndale
    murder rate 76.5

    7. Chatham
    Murder rate 63.7

    8. Austin
    Murder rate 63.5

    9. West Englewood
    Murder rate 62.2

    10. Pullman
    murder rate 61.5
     
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    According to Kamala Harris diverting funding for police to social spending makes neighborhoods safer.



    Kimberly Foxx is the Cook county states attorney. She is a black libocrat.

    If you want to shoot somebody and get away with it Chicago is a good place. 47% of homicides of whites are solved. 33% for Hispanics and 22% for blacks. Black lives matter? Real conviction rates are just 4%.

    https://www.npr.org/local/309/2019/...-solve-rate-even-worse-when-victims-are-black

    The typical response if you read the NPR piece I linked is to blame racism. Problem is the people who run the system are black democrats!
     
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    ~ Most sociologists and mental health social workers likely agree . ✔
     
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    Its the old correlation does not imply causation. The right likes to blame single mothers for poverty, which is nonsense. Poverty itself has sequelae of increased crime, social problems, single parenthood. Also if you've noticed in the 21st century marriage is becoming increasingly optional in developed nations that's why I inserted the fact 54% of Swedish mothers are single. I mentioned that because it had no effect on the crime rate. A quarter of white parents are single. Poverty is a better indicator of street crime and whether a man can support a family.

    I can understand why the BLM website took down the quote because it is useful propaganda for the right ...here's the actual full quote with more context:

    "We make our spaces family-friendly and enable parents to fully participate with their children. We dismantle the patriarchal practice that requires mothers to work “double shifts” so that they can mother in private even as they participate in public justice work.
    We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable."

    Do I have to translate? They are saying if you are a single parent and want to march don't let having kids stop you because they will support you and your children. They are not against the family. The right seems to like putting an evil spin to it.
     
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