Everyone driving electric cars----------what a joke.

Not any longer.

You have no problem going back to $4 gasoline?

Pumping it through pipelines is cheaper. Or have democrats decided that pipelines no longer work?

That is years away.

Virtually nothing to do with the issue.

Why not all?

 

$4 gas is ungodly cheap. We should be charging way more than that through taxation.

Look at EVERY other first world nation, including those who have significant oil production.

Pipelines work. The routing is often a TOTAL travesty of using eminent domain to steal people's property rights for private business use, for avoiding where white people live and then putting the pipline under waters that others depend on for their lives, etc.

So, "works" is NOT the only criterion here.

Beyond that, the price of oil is low enough that the low grade tar sands oil and other garbage should not be polluting our air. Why are we doint that? It is NOT because of the price of gas. That's for DAMN sure.

There is huge opportunity for independences through moving toward electric transportation.

I know - that doesn't pay oil companies. But, paying oil companies has NO business being a national priority.

Why are we using eminent domain to steal land and then giving that to private corporations to own and profit from?

 

There is no emergency for oil.

 

Not for someone struggling to get by.

We had a pipeline running across our property with fifty yards of our house growing up. We hardly knew it was there except for a noise it made when they ran cleaning brush through it.

We are a long way from not needing oil and gasoline.

 

The point with eminent domain is that it is supposed to be used strictly for the public good. We don't take land from owners for the purpose of giving it to a company so they can make more money.

I'm sure there are people who would love having a pipline across their property.

I did NOT say we don't need oil

Please be careful to note what I DO say. And, THAT has included the many reasons why we need oil.

What I pointed out is that there isn't a significant need for more oil.

 

Maybe the right “anti anything different” crowd has lost sight of a simple fact. With the advent of computers , selnoids and actuators over linkages and hydraulics, to days cars and trucks are managed exclusivly by electricity. Every mechanical function is at the discretion of electricity. We drive “ electric” cars already.

 

In spite of it being done by a private company, it is being done for a common good. Ask Canada.

We need X amount of oil. Apparently we are at that point right now. Anything less requires we get it from somewhere else. Saying EVs will replace it is fine, but we are probably twenty years away from that now. The price of oil will go up because Biden could not wait to study the situation for a few months. Too much "on day one" and "first one hundred days".

 

The cool thing about oil is......you can make it from a variety of different bases. Biodegradable oils have been on the market for decades. Busses can run on recycled coking oil. Lot of good options.

 

Electricity consumption in TX spiked, in large part, because folks in TX don't use NG for heat. Why? Because it isn't available. Where I live, it isn't available. Folks here use propane. And folks use heat pumps (which don't work worth a shyte when it drops below 30F. ) that run on electricity. Sorry for having to burst your bubble, but you really don't know what you're talking for here.

https://www.eia.gov/consumption/residential/reports/2009/state_briefs/pdf/TX.pdf

 

How much energy did the same houses use during peak cold? Average doesn't equal historic event usage.

 

Everyone with a heat pump knows their limitations. And because most of the country spends most of the time above 30 degrees , they are a significant benefit. The standard heating system everywhere in the country that has heat pumps where temp in the winter frequently get below 30 degrees in the winter, do have an in-house fossil fuel back up. That’s what Texas needs to consider doing more of. It’s not rocket science.

 

It’s not easy staying up with the new technology when you buy used and trade 10 to 15 years later. That’s always been our problem. Most cars around here rust first by 8-10: years. Because that has not been an issue with us for decades, where a stuck with older cars. So, in our dreams we’ll have EVs.

 

The low energy prices has been keeping our economy afloat. All we have to do is pull back on subsidies and they’ll rise. Personally, I can wait a while till the pandemic recovery is on its way . Then I’m with you....

 

When designing any system, people need to make educated and/or calculated guesses about variables, factored by the goal the person is trying to achieve. Use whatever numbers make sense...

 

Which just remains the distraction from the fact that not a single battery maker could have supplied sufficient power to endure this last event. That is still the ongoing point here. The fact that is is insufficient remains the thing no one can overcome, and if you were uneducated enough, it could be deadly. Is that not the worthy conversation here?

 

Here electricity is cheap and plentiful, but even then I opted for the budget plan which means that I pay a fix amount every month ($144.00Cdn for a 6 room single family house) and I get a month free in the summer.

 

About half of heating in Texas is by fossil fuel - more than 40% NG plus some propane. That does't contradict my my post in any significant way.

Electricity production by homeowners does not have to be 100% of normal usage nor does one need to have a home battery that will last a weak in order to make a serious reduction in the impact of loss of power situations.

 

Corporations want to build more pipeline to RAISE the price of oil.

First, remember that there is a world market for oil. It would take a huge increase in production to affect that price, because the world production of oil is gigantic. No change we can possibly make is going to be enough of a percent of the total world volume to change the price.

The problem faced by those producing oil in the upper central region of this continent is that their oil is somewhat stuck in that region. Thus, they have to sell at lower than world market prices to refinerie in our north central region.

THAT leads to cheap gas.

So, corporations are DESPERATE to get oil out to the oceans where it can be sold at world market prices, NOT at the lower prices that they would have to sell it more locally where there is more supply than demand - economics 101.

Pipelines are for RAISING the price of oil for mid-US refineries.

Pipelines are NOT for lowering the price of oil - since nothing that our north central district can produce is going to be enough to lower the world market price for oil.

We are LITERALLY condemning people's property and giving it to oil corporations in order to INCREASE our price of gas!!

 

Exactly. Oil companies aren’t benevolent
It isn’t like won’t do anything but try to make a quick buck, especially when it’s the dirtiest oil in the world. Remember, these are the guys who knew about climate change is early as anyone, then spent the next two decades denying it to make money.

 

Chevy Bolt 0-60 in 6.3 seconds.
The long term review....NO NEEDED SERVICE IN THREE YEARS.

 

Well we all know government is good at punishing people. Sad to see you calling for it.

Is it lost on you that the U.S. has been more successful the EVERY other first world nation.

Without eminent domain we wouldn't have roads or railroads or airports. That is what you want?

Apparently fear of climate change is the main one.

Above you thought the price of gas was a problem. So it isn't?

When the tchnology makes it practical and the infrastructure is in place, it could well be a good thing. If we get government out of the way, the market economy will take us there.

Who do you think will build the infrastructure for electric transportation?

Because it is how government deals with infrastructure that exists on private property. See answer #1 above.

 

We don’t want to even hear the GOP talk about infrastructure. They have no plan...never did. Just stay out of the way and let the progressives build the economy and America. This is typical of Dem vs GOP budget history.
It’s as laughable as the fake news claim the gop even knows how to make a budget or even uphold the constitution when it comes to supporting infrastructure. Look at the feeble arguments v EVs , one of the most necessary pieces in long term infrastructure development . Laughable.

“Democrats will be making significant new investments in roads and bridges, public transit, drinking and wastewater systems, broadband, schools, and more,” the document says. “We will make new investments in public transportation and build bicycle and pedestrian infrastructure across our urban and suburban areas."


“By contrast, the 2016 Republican platform approved last week calls for stripping programs from the Highway Trust Fund — money designated for road construction and other surface transportation projects across the country — ”

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To illustrate how much lack of focus the gop has always had with their reaction style govt instead of prevention, look at their attitude toward universal healthcare. Universal Healthcare is an integral part of all infrastructure. Countries that have it, pay more attention to physical infrastructure as well. Easy access to healthcare includes among other things adequate physical infrastructure with safer roads, bridges and internet connectivity.
Universal healthcare cost like all costs including real estate, goes down when pollution levels in any area recedes and the physical infrastructure is universally available.....pretty much what our constitution supports !
Moving towards electrification first and in coordination with improved infrastructure is mandatory for a safer America. It’s one reason we have 500k dead covid citizens.....poor preventative measures by the gop.

 

I only got 50 seconds in because I was getting so annoyed with him taking both hands off the wheel to gesticulate.
Still, 3 years with no service is good.

 

I’m surprised you were worried.
The recommended service interval is 150 k miles. So he has a way to go.

“According to the 2017 Bolt EV owner's manual (which one can find the 360 handbook in PDF form here), the EV requires tire rotations every 7,500 miles, cabin air filter replacements every 22,500 and a coolant flush every 150,000 miles. Beyond that, any other maintenance required would fall outside of the "routine" umbrella.”

I guess the cabin filter you replace yourself.