Has the Republican Party Become a Religion?

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  1. ImNotOliver

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    10%. The least religious demographics in America include biologists and physicists.
     
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    I don’t know that White privilege is exactly the word for it. More like the liberal advantage, having been born with the intelligence to see through the muck at an early age.
    How do your shortcomings become my blunders?
     
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    Let me see. I am most familiar with small country churches. They don't put a lot of money into buildings or paying for a elaborate hierarchy like the Catholic Church. They direct their money towards people who have actual needs.
     
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    No, the republican party is not becoming a religion. However, as the liberals assault religion across the board, it is the safer place for a religious person- because they will be persecuted and mocked in the liberal and now new-dem communities.

    Literally- for a person to be worth a damn, they have to have values that guide their lives. Values that help them keep faith in mankind, in a purpose, in their fellow man. This is not something that comes naturally; for we reject a great deal of the things mother nature teaches and gives to all life; no other species lacks that capacity more that we do. I'm not religious; while I was born into protestant backgrounds and baptized, I too could not accept the premises of religion as written. However- I do believe in a higher power, which is usually called Mother Nature. Not a god, but the ultimate teacher of life- and provided you will listen and learn, one that will lead you to all those values you need in quantity and quality.

    Given the weakness of the human species and the variables, people tended to seek something that could bring them the peace and harmony the desperately needed. The problem with religion, in my view- is that it promises outside help more than self-reliance; it promised to fulfill prayers. Remarkably like a politician- believe in me, I will do for you.

    Regardless of the validity of the gods millions have followed, in general religions have made people and the world they live in better than it might have been otherwise. At the same time, it has often been used and abused for power by ruthless people, and been the premise for many wars. Thus, it's a mixed bag- but in my mind, without question, has done more good than bad and has helped millions of people keep their lives and their spirits on track, and seen them through great hardships and trials. Few people have been able to handle those great trials without some source of moral strength. That doesn't mean it's not possible- only that in general, most of us are not strong enough to do it without some kind of belief system.

    Thus, despite it's flaws and the was it has been misused, religion has and does serve a great purpose on earth. I would hope that in time, it would merge more with what I believe and lose it's tendency to serve as a master rather than a guide. In the meantime- the value of religion, the belief in a higher power, is demonstrated clearly by watching those who lack it. They indeed are the ones who are lost and deceived- and lack a moral compass. If either is a threat to the future- it's those people, not the genuinely religious among us.

    Joe Biden... IS, without question, demonstrating the signs of diminishing capacity. Not senile at this point, but certainly no longer fully functioning either. You can deny that, but there's a thousand video clips that demonstrate it.
    As for health.... Joe has suffered two brain aneurysms, one discovered so close to hemorrhaging that it actually did as they were performing surgery. The list of his health issues over the last 30 years or so is quite long- so Joe is lucky to even be alive. Now, in the worlds most stressful job that puts him on call 24/7 and demands quick accurate grasp of information, quick thinking and proper response, we have a man 79 years old, who with a 45 year career in politics can't recall the --- "You know- the thing" from the opening line of the Declaration of Independence. Joe is on drugs now. I say that, because he would have to be to maintain the appearance of being clear-minded and decisive. However, he will not be able to sustain the energy or the functionality that the job of president demands, that is virtually an absolute. Nor would I assume the party behind him doubts this- indeed, they are banking on Joe being a temporary figure, the primary purpose of which was a known name for the ballot that might win- and now that this has happened, it will not bother them at all when Joe has to step down. I think they're looking forward to it. They will weep and wail in sorrow for the public if he dies, but be on a high behind closed doors.

    While Joe presents the image of health at the moment- the decisions he's been making and the things he's been doing say that Joe Biden of those 45 years is not home; someone else is pulling the strings. The real Joe, even at his worst- would not be doing what he's doing now. As Obama once said- "Never underestimate Joe's ability to Fuxk things up." If anyone would know, Obama should. The price for this will be enormous.
     
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    But he didn't "order" the disciples "to enforce [his] will." Is that the only reason you can think of for why someone would have a weapon?
     
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    Of course I wouldn’t have asked if I hadn’t known you would provide inaccurate data. Here’s data from the last Pew study.
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    You will notice atheism is not particularly prevalent compared to belief among scientists of all disciplines.

    Now another study does show 11% of biologists and physicists regularly attend religious services in the US. But being religious is not defined only by regular attendance of services. Here is a link

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/phys.org/news/2015-12-worldwide-survey-religion-science-scientists.amp

    Also of note, less than 1/3 of US scientist hold the belief science and religion are in conflict as you do. So again, your argument is predicated on misinformation.
     
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    I do not hate Muslims but I do detest fundamentalist Islam, but it is a problem for the left around the world, how do you work against the prejudice against Muslims while not allowing them any opportunity to impose their religion on others or giving them a pass for the crap their religion teaches. I think the left in the UK have been far to lenient with many aspects of Islam and Judaism which can be just as bad. So I understand what you are saying and to some extent agree with you. The fact is there is a civil war going on within Islam and that is bad for all of us.
     
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    And thus, your admission that you cannot prove your response to be sound.
    As per the norm.
     
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    Did you catch how you did not deny that you would, today, happily characterize Thomas Jefferson and his peers as "right wing extremists"?
    I did.
    So did everyone else.
     
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    He didn't provide inaccurate data as that implies he had data to look at
    In fact, he made his number up.
     
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    Yeah right, for years progressives repeated the same lie, "they were uneducated, poor working class voters".
     
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    No, what that means is that if you claim you have a right to do or not do something because of your religion we have the right to make sure that what you want is actually part of your religion.
     
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    Certainly the GOP is the party that is far more tolerate and welcoming of our First Amendment right to freely gather and worship according to beliefs.

    Dems, and I don't mean the rank and file, I think the rank and file are as moderate and reasonable as most Republicans, but the loudmouths with the national microphones and in the universities who claim to be the party of science are simply using scientism to mandate their dogmatic narrow mindedness..

    “SCIENTIFIC” AMERICAN:

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    “Uncomfortably reminiscent” to people who don’t know the meaning of words, perhaps. Or who are simply utterly irrational.
     
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    The modern GOP is certainly religion-like in it's willingness to reject scientific consensus. Ironically, the GOP used to be the party of science. Now it's the party of ignoring science.
     
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