Officials with ties to Biden have reportedly been meeting with Iran to ‘undermine’ Trump

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  1. Enuf Istoomuch

    Enuf Istoomuch Well-Known Member

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    Such absurd foolishness. No one broke the law to defeat Trump in the last election. Dozens of cases brought before courts of law have said so. Trumps own judicial appointees have said so repeatedly. Trump's own Attorney General and others in his administration have said so repeatedly. Trump's own lawyers, for all their bluster in front of TV cameras, when they stand in a courtroom they say so, repeatedly.

    No one should be concerned about the last election.

    During Trump's presidency is another issue. The endless leaks, the officials slow-walking his directives, many quiet acts of patriotism may have included technically improper behaviors.

    But then every American's first and last oath of allegiance, in government service, is to the Constitution. Not to any individual in power.

    And hell yes it DOES REALLY MATTER that the election was NOT STOLEN!

    Pretending it doesn't matter is a tool to rehabilitate the legacy of a madman who achieved the Presidency, and whitewash the terrible threat to Liberty and the Republic such a man represents.
     
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    I remember someone being accused and then prosecuted for doing a very similar thing...

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    Lying on a FISA warrant is against the law.
     
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    Well, let's see--Ronald Reagan undermined Jimmy Carter with Iran.
     
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    Uh huh.

    "Only two people have ever been indicted on charges of violating the Act, one in 1802 and the other in 1852. Neither was convicted of violating the Act."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act
     
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    Your side set the precedent get used to it and like it.
     
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    Babbling blather from the Extreme Rightwing Echo Chamber.

    There are real, credible reasons to oppose some of what Biden is doing. How about focusing on them?
     
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    Are you okay? Iranians are White People.
     
  11. LangleyMan

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    Propaganda Alert!
     
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    In that case he held up the release of American hostages. In this case we showed interest in rejoining a deal that Trump broke because of his feelings.
     
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    No. I don't THINK Biden won.
    I know, because all 50 states election committees and governors declared each of their election results as accurate and verified.

    trump lost because he failed as a leader. Covid was a unifying pandemic, the enemy to which the entire country could have rallied against. But instead, the republicans, as you said, politicized it and made it red vs blue state. Mask vs no mask. Yes, it was failed leadership as the reason Biden is president.
     
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    Or read!
     
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    So this only works when impeaching a President then! Good to know..
     
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    Well lead paint and asbestos didn't cause tumors and lung cancer, UNTIL they DID!
     
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    What I am aware is that you are desperately trying to avoid the topic here which is Biden and his staff plotting with Iran behind and trying to usurp the foreign policy of the United States. The left and MSM accused the Trump administration of doing that base on one LEGAL contact between Flynn and the Russian ambassador and want Trump impeached over it. What Biden and his staff are alleged to have done is EXPONIATELLY worse.

    This is NOT about the election, it is NOT about Trump............so focus and the topic
     
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    Oh well, your side set that precedent.
     
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    The NSA-elect who had a proper conversation with one Russian, the ambassador, and the left wanted him charged with a Logan Act violation for merely advising him that his government should not over react to the sanctions. I guess you would have preferred he tell TO over react?

    What the Biden campaign is alleged to have engaged in is a concerted effort to undermine United States foreign policy with our advisory. And if Biden knew and was involved then he should be removed if we use that same judgement in which the Dems/MSM engaged.
     
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    Believe 1/2 of what one sees, and NONE of what one reads/hears.
     
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    Do you believe that? Or just read that?
     
  23. Bluesguy

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    What precedent? NSA's during transitions have always spoken to members of foreign governments and the conversation brief as it was was not designed to and did not interfere with United States foreign policy.

    "Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif met with multiple current Biden administration officials several years ago to “undermine” former President Trump’s dealings [the foreign policy of the UNITED STATES] with the country, a report claims."
     
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    Who was the source? Steve Bannon? Donald Trump? It’s the trashiest of Murdoch media.

    It isn’t as if the Trump policy was going to do anything other than insure that Iran would explode a bomb sooner rather than later.

    Since Trump’s policy failed even before he launched it, and Iran did exactly what Trump’s critics said they were going to do, it’s not as if standing up for the faint hope of nuclear non proliferation wasn’t a worthy undertaking.
     
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    Just keep looking in the mirror and repeating that little mantra. So much easier than learning anything or knowing what you’re talking about. And it has the self serving victimhood already built in!
     

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