Supreme Court won't halt turnover of Trump's tax records

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  1. Egoboy

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    LOL....Nobody is mentioned by name in that document... Woman-1, Magazine-1, Chairman-1... However, there are a few clues...

    SNIP
    On June 16, 2015, Individual-1 began his presidential campaign.
    ENDSNIP

    Dammit.... I'm only one man.... It'll take teams of experts many decades to figure that one out...
     
  2. Daniel Light

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    Clintons were under investigation for 8 years for Whitewater + 4 years for Benghazi and e-mail scandal. Whitewater
    led to the blow-job impeachment. They had no morals.

    Dirty Donald has been under investigation because he has been skirting the edges of the law
    for decades with questionable business moves including a University that was sued by dozens of students and
    had to pay out millions, a charity that was shut down because of questionable book keeping. Dirty Donald
    has a history. He has no morals.

    Other Presidents put they holding into trusts when taking office - Dirty Donald decided not to, so it's no surprise that
    his business dealing would be under greater scrutiny.
     
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    Another Daniel TWT.. What's this to do with Clintons, blow jobs, moral and whitewater?
     
  4. Egoboy

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    Also not sure why you are continuing with the next BIG LIE that it was T****'s money at the time of the campaign, when it clearly wasn't....

    If you think you are fooling anybody, they must be conservatives....
     
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    It was Trump's PERSONAL money and he can spend his own money anyway he chooses. He is not even mentioned in the plea deal so I don't know why you are continuing with the BIG LIE. I see you have been fooled by the liberal media and Democrat talking points without doing your own research.
     
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  6. Egoboy

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    So much wrong in such little time...

    If it was T****'s money, why was he repaying Cohen for the payment then?

    Silliness... suggest you peddle your nonsense elsewhere....
     
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    Oh Geez so much wrong. President Clinton called for the Special Prosecutor for Whitewater in which over 20 close associates where found guilty and many going prison including his hand picked replacement for Governor, their business partners, his hand picked Deputy Director of the Department of Justice and had he not committed suicide because of it so would have the Legal Counsel to the President of the United States. The only reason the Clintons avoided being charged was that of the 4 key witnesses two died and the other 2 went to prison refusing to talk.

    Benghazi was and investigation into the Department of State during which it was discovered the SecState had used an unsecured private email server and was recieving/transmitting/ storing classified information and that she and her staff had attempted to destroy that evidence.

    Whitewater did NOT lead to a "blow-job impeachment", they were entirely different matters, and the impeachment itself was not for a "blow-job" nor were the criminal charges he was facing as he left office and to which he plea bargain so as to avoid that prosecution.

    Who had charged Trump with a felony? He's been out of office for a month and all I've heard from your side is "you just wait they will be marching him out of the White House in an orange suit because they have so much against him". Last I heard he is playing golf in Florida.
     
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    With his personal money, what was wrong with that? The retainer was Trump's personal money. His lawyer was to handle the transaction as his attorney and Cohen screwed up in how he did it.

    Why isn't Trump even mentioned in the plea bargain?
     
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    Whether it was his own money or not is not relevant.

    He paid a bribe for silence, which is something of value.

    Of course, this opened up a whole slew of new issues, as Trump tried to bury the payoff in retainage paid to Cohen (and he diddled Cohen over reimbursing him for giving Daniels the money (which is typical Trump).
     
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    Hmmmm the document I first searched returned

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    Tried another and three times "individual-1" is mentioned but nothing asserting he committed a crime, all acts by Cohen and how HE handled the money.
     
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    What a collection of carefully parsed half facts designed to create a false narrative!

    The notion that the Whitewater investigation did not lead to the Monica Lewinsky thing is obviously false./

    Benghazi was an evidence free marathon of GOP investigations accompanies by a right wing public relations campaign that routinely marketed false claims and repeatedly told the audience about a string of “bombshell revelations” from mysterious witnesses that never amounted to anything.

    Trumpsters have no problem with secret or third party servers when it’s Trump, Cheney or Bush doing it.

    I have no idea whether Trump will ever be charged with anything. There is a veritable smorgasboard of possibilities.

    I fully expect a slew of Acting and former cabinet secretaries and their flunkies, as well as the menagerie of bag men, flunkies, con men, and wannabe international men of mystery to get increasing scrutiny. The corruption of the Trump Administration was more or less, out in the open, and went all the way to the very top. Teapot Dome and the Second Grant Administration can stand aside now.
     
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    You’re confused it’s Biden’s controllers who are the wannabe Fuhrers.
     
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    Actually, I disagree with that... If T**** had used his own money and reported it as a campaign expense, he wouldn't have a care in the world now (on this matter anyway)...

    He didn't, by ordering Cohen to take care of it with Cohen's personal resources, which indicates an effort to hide the payment from campaign reporting.

    I suspect we haven't heard the end of Individual 1.... We know Cohen has been meeting with Vance's new team recently.... Of course, there any many possible topics for that meeting, but Stormy would likely be one of those..
     
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    A can of coke is of value... ( or should i say Pepsi)
     
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    I'm still waiting to see his "storage shed" full of evidence....
     
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    You won't see a single piece of Cohen's evidence until a trial occurs, although we did see some of the cancelled checks...

    10 years in the employ of a very unethical man... it's probably a very large shed...
     
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    It is factually true one had NOTHING to do with the other but feel free to prove otherwise.

    Benghazi was a congressional investigation into the death of our Ambassador there and the actions of the State Department in how it failed to properly protect him and the other Americans who died there and yes it amounted to exposing that failure.

    THAT is your excuse? And no none of them did what Hillary Clinton did.

    The Dems/Left/MSM have been engaged in this "you just wait, we got them now, the charges are waiting they will march Trump out of the White House in an orange suit" for FOUR YEARS. And nothing. Excuse me if your full expectations never come to fruition.
     
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    It is absolutely relevant. And it is perfectly legal to pay someone for an NDA over a personal matter. There was NO CRIME involved. It was HIS OWN MONEY. Campaign finance covers DONATIONS and how they are used not the candidates PERSONAL MONEY.
     
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    Lets see the 1099 from China. Oh wait, they don't issue 1099's. In fact Hunter should issue "the big guy" a 1099 for the money the kicked up to Dad!
     
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    It will all come down to how he reported it. If he tried to claim it as a legal expense, he'll be caught. It was reimbursement of the hush payments - not legal fees. Same thing goes with the double dipping he arranged for Ivanka.
     
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    Trump doesn't have to report it anywhere. I've seen no assertion he claimed it as a legal expense where do you get the idea he did? Trump wrote the check for the money, Cohen merely handled the deal and HE did so in violation of the law.
    And now you are just throwing things up on the wall, let's move the goal post. Prosecutors are NOT supposed to put people through investigations unless they have a probable cause to do so. They just can't point their fingers and say "Hmmmm let's investigate that guy over there and see what we can find". They especially cannot say "You know I really don't like that guy and think he needs to punished for something so let's go and see what we can find".
     
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    Get well soon!

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    trump wrote the check to influence the outcome of an election. That is absolutely a crime

    As to your assertion that prosecutors cannot comb through people taxes to find additional charges — that just isn’t accurate. And as more charges become public more agencies will have even more to comb through.

    I hope they televise his trial. Maybe PPV it — put the money against the funds he stole from the taxpayer over the last four years.
     
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