Lawyers find parents of 105 separated migrant children in past month

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  1. Richard Franks

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    The lawyers working to reunite immigrant parents and children separated by the Trump administration reported Wednesday that they have found the parents of 105 children in the past month.
    Things will be looking up when the Parents and children seperated at the border are reunited and how many is another matter. It would be great if they were all reunied to make it a happy ending.
     
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    It's like Covid. It's amazing what you can do when you really try. :)
     
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    What i read from your link is that most of these parents CHOSE not to take their children back when they were deported.......
     
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    Here come the excuses.
     
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    I think this needs a little fixing:
    The lawyers working to reunite immigrant parents and children HERE ILLEGALLY separated by the Trump administration reported Wednesday that they have found the parents ( ALSO HERE ILLEGALLY) of 105 children in the past month.
    Things will be looking up when the Parents and children seperated at the border are reunited and how many is another matter. It would be great if they were all reunied to make it a happy ending ON THE DIME OF AMERICAN CITIZENS.

    you're welcome and no charge for the corrections
     
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    That is kind of a moot point. In any situation where parents with children in their care are arrested, regardless of the reasons, the authorities have a responsibility to take the children in to their care. At that point they will either find suitable next-of-kin to care for the children or keep them in state care until the parents are released. It should go without saying that all the necessary records should be maintained about the status of the parents and children so those processes can run as smoothly as is possible.

    It seems there was an abject (and intentional) failure to follow any kind of similar procedure for parents arrested for illegal immigration. I'd suggest it was a breach of the children's human rights, if only the US government actually recognised them, especially for anyone who isn't a US citizen.
     
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    There is nothing "MOOT" about citing the ROOT CAUSE of an issue.
    The root cause here is the left promising all kinds of freebies for coming here illegally and these people then putting their kids at risk to get these freebies. thats what one would call BAD PARENTING
    But please, by all means, please keep ignoring the ROOT CAUSE of the problem since it might not fit your narrative
     
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    That's the difference in having idiots working for you vs. having people who are able to make intelligent decisions. Go Democrats!!
     
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    By all means look at ways of addressing the actual root causes, but the root cause of this specific offence doesn't have any impact on how the children of any and all criminal suspects should be treated.
     
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    Separations included those who came here without breaking any laws, and you have it backwards. They were separated on the dime of American citizens to begin with, which wasn't necessary.
     
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    That sounds normal and logical but this is a criminal act for which there are rarely legal consequences. I don't feel that applies here. They don't catch and release AMERICAN criminals, they catch and imprison
     
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    Non-criminals were separated as well. And most of the remaining criminals were guilty of misdemeanors, which, pro-tip, we don't usually imprison people for misdemeanors. "Catch and release" is the norm for misdemeanors and non-criminal acts. Catch up.
     
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    Except those ones are here LEGALLY
    Catch up!
    You guys can't keep ignoring that they are here ILLEGALLY because I'll remind you EVERY SINGLE TIME
    catch up to that!
     
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    Please actually try reading before pretending to "respond." Let me know what you aren't understanding.

    I repeat:
    1) This has included those who have not committed any criminal act.
    2) Of those who have committed criminal acts, it has mostly been misdemeanors.

    How is it possible that you can't understand two simple observations like this? This ain't rocket surgery.
     
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    It's "suspects" at the point of arrest, regardless of nationality (or whether you've personally decided they're already guilty).

    And yes, lots of Americans (and non-Americans, legal or not) will be arrested and then released shortly afterwards, either on bail, after being given a warning, fine or other non-custodial sentence or after a decision not to proceed with the case. If their children are taken under state care, however briefly, the will be proper procedures followed, records kept and the children returned to the parents or next-of-kin as soon as practically possible.

    Again, there is absolutely zero justification that exactly the same process can't or shouldn't be followed for people arrested on suspicion of being illegal immigrants.
     
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    Especially since many of them turned themselves over at port of entry seeking asylum . . . which is completely legal. Yet they still find themselves arrested and separated from their kids . . . without charges of committing any criminal act. Of those who did commit a criminal act, most only committed a misdemeanor upon entry, which we don't typically imprison people for. Their excuses are all fake.
     
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    You can focus on ROOT CAUSE all you want, but many of us are thinking about the children. Doing what is best for them. And doing all that can be done to put them back into the arms of their parents. That is the priority - the rest can be sorted next.
     
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    but the "Sorting out" part usually involves releasing them into the country to live a tax payer funded tax free life (well except sales tax of course)
     
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    For these 611 families, I'm okay with that. I don't support illegal immigration or open borders, but I do think that a horrible wrong was committed by the government in this case and it would be a small price to pay for making that right.
     
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    116 billion dollars. thats what illegals cost a year. Thanks for taking liberty with my hard earned money but I do NOT think its a small price to pay because that 611 families is going to be 611,000 families next year once they let their buddies across the border know how easy this is
     
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    Sure - lets use these 611 already terrorized families to make a point. Have at it.
     
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    Ex-President Trump was going to build the wall between the U.S. and Mexico and expected Mexico to pay for it. When these families tried to cross the border, Trump took the children and put them in zoo cages and sengt the parents back to where they came from. I know for a fact the this wasn't right. Parents and children seperated at the border isn't right and so mething had to be done about this and now that Biden is President, Something is going to be done. I hope.
     
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    The Trump Administration clearly didn't recognize the children of parents who are refugees as human, but that is not at all surprising since Trump did not recognize refugees as human either. Indeed, it seems clear to me that Trump didn't recognize the majority of humanity as human. Hopefully, that is all moot by now since he is out of politics forever.
     
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    Right win hoax. Obama kicked out a heck of a lot of illegals. A well known fact. It's only up for debate if indeed Obama kicked out more people than any other president.

    The only part of the bad parenting is deliberately ripping children away from parents and to than become clueless where the parents are to reunite them again.

    If your school forgets where your parents are, and just keep for you YEARS locked up because of that...
    You would think your parents would file and WIN a multi million dollar lawsuit.
     
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    So they didn't incarcerate the parents?

    Yeah something is going to be done alright. Kids are going to be put in cages as has already happened!
     
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