Dem Rep: 'We Don't Want' Small Businesses That Can't Pay $15/Hour Minimum Wage

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  1. Collateral Damage

    Collateral Damage Well-Known Member

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    While the $15 FMW has bit the dust, for now, the logic of the idea in a bill to help people during a time of crisis, while businesses have been struggling, many people have not yet returned to work or can't find a job, and they think putting additional strain on small businesses is a good idea?????

    Obviously, proven again, education does not always equal intelligence.....
     
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  2. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Step one: Prevent owners from conducting business.
    Step two: Increase the cost of labor
    Step three: Increase taxes
    Step four: Increase the cost of energy
    Step five: Sit back and enjoy the booming economy

    It's flawless.
     
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    Collateral Damage Well-Known Member

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    Well done! Now I have to mop up the water I spewed.....
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    No. But you did consider that a possibility. Maybe you should be more careful with the strawman arguments you make. Always keep in mind that they can and will be used against you in a forum debate.

    BTW, the person who works for me that makes the least makes $20/hr. That's an entry level field technician certified to service home computers. And if the Federal minimum wage increases, I might need to consider increasing that too. But my business is solid, and I can manage it.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The overwhelming majority of business is not major conglomerates like CostCo. They are small businesses, where the owners and shareholders are not pulling six figure salaries and millions in stock options.
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You haven't really demonstrated your ability to read words. Now your claiming the ability to read minds? That's incredible. What am I considering right this moment? I'll give you a hint. It involves the kitchen.

    Did you just admit to withholding surplus labor value from your employee? Martha? Get me Senator Sanders on the line, STAT.
     
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    How far back in history? I really don't remember that.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Of course! One assumes that people write what is on their mind. Are you saying that there is some sort of "dissociation" between what you think and what you write?

    But, of course, I know this was simply the only excuse you could come up with. It was a lousy one, though.
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh man. I guess I have to introduce you to a new vocabulary word. Okay, one more, but after this I'm going to have to start charging a fee. I'll make sure it's more than $15 dollars an hour so that you can feel comfortable paying it.

    The dissociation between what I think and what I wrote is called irony. It's a literary device people use to make a rhetorical point. It is the use of language which when read plainly would convey the opposite of its true meaning.

    You said that someone unable to make $15 an hour worth of value "would have to be disabled." My use of irony illustrates the point that if this is true: Someone unable to generate $15 dollars of value has to be disabled. Then it must also be true that the percentage of the global population that is unable to generate $15 of value likewise must be disabled. The secondary point of my use of irony was to point out the fallacy that $15 an hour of value is what someone needs in order to live. Since half of the world's population is also alive at this very moment (and also with a large percentage of that demographic to be quite content to be so), I clearly do not believe this to be true. Do you?

    I also said that you should fire your research team. Do you understand that to mean I think you actually have a research team? Or do you recognize that the dissociation between what I wrote and what I think was intended to communicate to you that I thought you didn't really pay attention to what was being discussed?
     
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    It's not "sharing the wealth", it's increasing an expense for business reasons. They have a much smaller workforce compared to a Wal-Mart or Sam's and a more stable one because they are willing to pay for it. And as unemployment keeps falling and with the current state of business begging to hire people wages are going to go up.

    "In return for its generous wages and benefits, Costco gets one of the most loyal and productive workforces in all of retailing, and, probably not coincidentally, the lowest shrinkage (employee theft) figures in the industry. While Sam’s Club and Costco generated $37 billion and $43 billion, respectively, in U.S. sales last year, Costco did it with 38% fewer employees—admittedly, in part by selling to higher-income shoppers and offering more high-end goods. As a result, Costco generated $21,805 in U.S. operating profit per hourly employee, compared with $11,615 at Sam’s Club. Costco’s stable, productive workforce more than offsets its higher costs."
     

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