“These Teacher Unions Are Out Of CONTROL”

Agreed. Particularly in cities where the volume of alarms are so huge it would be very difficult to handle the load.

 

This is just denial.
Here you go.
One Of America's Worst Blunders: Allowing Public Workers To ...
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Sep 3, 2015 — Public sector unions worked hard to attach themselves like lampreys to the treasury and will use every bit of their great political power to remain there. ... Further, the initiative is designed to prevent the state's gigantic public ... employees unionizing, as did long-time AFL-CIO president George Meany.

 

I doubt that.

 

Then you believe incorrectly.

 

Another revealing school board hot mic moment: Returning to school is like…slavery?



“So how are we forcing what seems like a very white supremacist ideology…”

 

I work in a hospital with a big pediatrics ward, and the doctors, nurses, therapists, housekeepers, etc... have been there for the kids without fail throughout the entire pandemic. They're not sitting home on their couches, working a few hours a day, and whining and moaning histrionics about how it would be a "death sentence" if they had to go to work and deal with a bunch of little "Petri dishes".

So that's the difference between compassionate, dedicated professionals, and teachers.

And yes, I'm disgusted by it.

 

So, teachers shouldn't be allowed to unionize because pols are corrupt? Seems like a good reason for teachers to have a union. Teachers are enticed by pensions in nonunion states for the same reason pols are willing to negotiate pensions in states where teachers organize.

I was one of the teachers involved in teachers taking control of their pension fund. The government pays their negotiated share into the pension fund up front. No more surprises for future taxpayers over teacher salaries.

 

No public employees, teachers included, should be allowed to unionize.

 

Good for you.

You got sucked into believing ginned up conflict.

If I was still head of bargaining for my teachers' union, I would be telling the employer the sum total of mitigation measures (masks, distancing, vaccines, etc.) would be monitored by teachers in every classroom and every school and if those measures were insufficient to protect the health of students and teachers, teachers would shut down that classroom and/or school immediately.

The message would be clear to the employer, parents and the public: teachers will protect students and their families, teachers and their families, and workers involved in the schools. No phony school district promises to keep things safe (right--safe, not perfectly safe) would be tolerated. Teachers would not be complicit in lying to the community to make the employer look good or in putting students at risk.

Hey, if you don't like what I said, put pressure on the school district to get it right, not pretend to get it right so they can open the school doors.

I only hung up the phone on one parent in more than three decades of teaching. You might have been the second parent.

 

So much for freedom in HaysLand.

Teachers form "associations," anyway, so you end up having them involved in local politics to take control of school boards. It's worse that dealing with a union.

I notice you didn't comment on what we did in ending the pensions game.

 

I wasn't looking for your approval, I was letting you know that there are dedicated professionals out there seeing to the well-being of children while the teachers refuse to.

Excuses, excuses. Disingenuous, self-serving excuses.

Of course you hung up the phone, teachers never want to hear the truth about their selfish selves.

 

What you did in "ending the pensions game" had little to do with whether the state created an unfunded obligation. That danger does not arise from the state's "negotiated share" but from whether the projected fund growth forecast is accurate.
I was a federal civil servant for nearly 34 years.

 

Do you think Trump would have been elected if this hadn't happened?

 

Most schools are open.

What's your excuse for spreading lies and hatred?

One parent in more than three decades? Like I said, you might well have been the second.

 

So you're back to in-person teaching full time? And you're not dead?

That's weird, I was told that sending teachers back into the schools was a death sentence.

Well then, good for you.

How sweet was you cushy at-home/semi-vacation gig? You're going to miss those glory days, aren't you?

Slacker's paradise.

 

If course, it did. There is no unfunded obligation passed on to future generations. None. Zero. Zilch. Teachers and the school district put their entire obligation into the pension fund now, not later. The pension is no longer a defined benefit.

If the fund doesn't grow fast enough, teachers' pension benefits are reduced as needed to keep the fund solvent. No more money from the employer/state.

 

I retired long before the pandemic.

You watch too much cable news.

Yeah, it's called "retirement."

 

You're missing out. These are the glory days to be a teacher. A couple hours a day video teaching on your couch for full pay and bennies. A sweet deal.

Or I read too many posts made by teachers.

Literally a SENTENCE of DEATH!!!!

ZOMG!!!!

Distance learning is like semi-retirement at full pay and benefits for teachers.

 

If the development from the "middle ages" into the ages of surplus population centered in towns and cities had been benevolently handled, unions, or something similar, would never have been necessary. Human history being what it has, of course this did not happen. But, that really doesn't matter now, because all that is of the past. Economics, among other basic institutions, will soon be totally revised by either intelligent or other means and agents.
There has never been more "out-of-the-box" thinking time.

 

I believe so, yes. He was blessed with a terrible opponent.

 

If the pension is no longer defined benefit then we're mixing apples & oranges.

 

Man, is that ever true!
Of course, so was his second. How could anyone lose to Biden?

 

I voted for Biden.

 

I voted for neither of the two parties that have taken over the government.

 

That's not a fair comparison.

- hospitals are both absolutely required

- hospitals are not the centers for spreading COVID that group encounters are.

Whether we require teachers and stdents (who range in age to 1 to aggregate in groups for many hours has NOTHING AT ALL to do with whether we need hospitals.

In fact, doing little to reduce group encounters is one of the key ways in which we ensured our hospitals got overloaded

Or, are you trolling for patients?