Biden expected to diversify USPS board, cement Democrats' oversight with appointments

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  1. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    You’ll have to tell me which part you don’t understand first
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Okay, this part:

    "The life experience of a woman or person of color in this country are likely different from a white man and can give them a different perspective."

    Please give those righties an example as it pertains to USPS.
     
  3. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Lol the point of my statement is that I can’t.
     
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    So in conclusion, "righties" constantly need it explained, but you are unable to explain it?
     
  5. The Mello Guy

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    I already explained it. What you want is for me to be a mind reader. I can’t tell you what someone else’s life experience would inform them on, since I don’t have that life experience. Sort of the entire point lol
     
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    Then how can you justify using race or gender first, ideas second?
     
  7. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    I didn’t do that either. Are you now claiming everyone in the usps board was hired because they had some new ideas? Source please!
     
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    The push for "diversity" = anyone not white which in itself is racist.. if you defend the policy you defend the racism of it.
     
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    I made no such claim. You made it sound like those righties can't understand something so simple, yet could not provide the simple explanation.
     
  10. The Mello Guy

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    My explanation was very simple. You just don’t like the answer. Why don’t you make your own point instead of misstating mine over and over.
    Why are you against this board being more diverse?
     
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    Pro tip, women can be white.
     
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    Only republicans can see a group of all white men as proof it’s not racist lol
    What they’re really saying is that white men are always the most qualified choices. It’s white supremacy.
     
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    You haven't bothered to check out who got appointed to the board, have you?
     
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    I copied and pasted your post to be sure I did not misstate what you said. I oppose using race as a determinate when hiring. That falls under the definition of systemic racism.
     
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    No, systemic racism is the reason to actively seek to increase diversity.
     
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    It really is fascinating, isn't it. Its instinctive - white men are 'qualified', everyone else is a 'diversity hire'. A bunch of white guys running something is 'meritocracy', appointing people who aren't white men is 'social engineering'. It is so deeply ingrained that they can't even acknowledge that thinking that way might be a problem, and when someone tries to change it that is then decried as 'racism'.

    That is some deep, deep programming, and they refuse to even acknowledge it.
     
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    Please post a source that the current board is there due to their race, then explain how using race as a determinate is the solution.
     
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    Does that matter? Seems only race does.
     
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    It only matters if you want to make informed comments. Clearly you don't much care about that.
     
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    It’s sad you bring up systemic racism then show you actually don’t know what it is.
    Nobody used race as a determinate in the latest appointments
     
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    Race isn't the determinate. One of the non-white appointees was formerly Deputy Postmaster General, the other has lengthy experience as a lawyer for the Postal Workers union. Both are more qualified than most of the other board members, most of whom have zero previous experience with the Postal Service.

    In addition to being more qualified than most of the existing board members these appointees bring perspectives from non-white communities. It fascinates me that anyone has an issue with this. Either its opposition for the sake of opposing or its straight out racism. There isn't a third alternative.
     
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    I am replying to the content and context of the OP article.. Are you going to discuss the topic or just badger me?

    If qualified people are being hired its great. If people are being hired to make sure you fill in enough boxes that is an issue. Care to discuss it?

    "these appointees bring perspectives from non-white communities"

    Why does this matter?
     
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    I thought you said you couldn't read minds?
     
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    The first sentence in the article says otherwise. You can't claim to value equality and colorblindness when selecting board members when race is a determinate. Gender is not an issue anymore since it is a choice.
     
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    Are you going to inform yourself or just whine? I have done enough research to have an informed conversation about this, you don't appear to have read anything including the article in the OP.

    If you had read that article in the OP or numerous posts in the thread subsequent to that you would know that all three are not only objectively qualified, but more qualified than most of the existing board. That I am having to tell you this on page 6 of the thread is evidence that you are just here for a fight. In that context trying to explain that people from different backgrounds might have a different perspective on how different aspects of American life work is clearly an exercise in futility.
     

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