Andrew Cuomo needs to go

He needs to go SLOWLY! We can really drag the left through the mud with this woman abuser who got an AWARD. I hope its milked for every drop. Every last one.

 

No reason why not. There are companies that specialize in rapidly built field hospitals and medical tents. They ship in a day or two. Set up in a day. Sure, then you need equipment etc., but it can be done quite rapidly. And we have something called The Army Corps of Engineers. They can built large facilities like that. And the Navy has hospital ships. Actually two were dispatched to New York and went unused. Easily one of these solutions could have hosted nursing home residents positive for Covid-19 until they recovered and were no longer infectious, or died (sadly).

https://www.extremecanopy.com/infla..._EHf4kCCcIy9LOYSQfhWVoBxzDin6MPBoCYagQAvD_BwE

https://tentcraft.com/article/medic...Nw0q3qY6JFURRW1A8z97YDFXwjzYOwkBoCDEgQAvD_BwE

 

I'll play devils advocate.
The ship landed in NY on the same day hospitalizations peaked and was not open for Covid patients initially.
They had about 1000 beds in the Javits center.
What they really needed was doctors and equipment.
In the matter of about 3 weeks 50,000 people in NYC with covid found their way to a hospital.

 

Bravo! I get called "grammar police" quite a bit. My Kryptonite is the mix-up of plurals and possessive.

 

I'm just saying, instead of sending infectious patients to nursing homes, they could have been kept elsewhere until they were no longer contagious.

 

Which would be the smart, safe and prudent thing to do. Now, everyone complains there wasn't a federal strategy in the Trump Administration(isn't much of one right now either) and that's because self-responsibility is a thing.

Not just for people of course, but for the local governments and first responders, etc. You can't always expect a hand. That's a nanny, not a government. Where responsibility should be taken, it's taken. To me, the government's responsibility back then was to provide the ships, the military personnel, etc they did that. That's where the responsibility ends. The government bankrolls the vaccines, okay now it's up to the shipping folks to distribute it.

If we can't handle our own messes, we shouldn't expect someone else to clean them up.

 

Wouldn't have made any difference.
Nursing homes are death traps for covid.
Even if you add 50% to New York's numbers they are similar to others.

 

I think it is utter bullshit that the Democrats ginned up a couple phony sex harassment cases to boot him out. Accusations are not evidence of anything. The MSM and the left carried this man's water like a camel for the past year and are now throwing him under the bus for political purposes. Generally my opinion is that if the MSM wants something, I want the opposite. They want to get replace Cuomo with Hochul therefor Cuomo should stay and be on the ballot for the next election. If they want a female governor, that woman should earn the position through an election.

 

Governor Cuomo needs to resign.

Period

 

Any difference??? It would have killed fewer patients. Even if not too many deaths had been prevented, they were still lives worth preserving. Nursing homes are death traps for Covid if there is an outbreak. Not all nursing homes had outbreaks. If you sent to a nursing home a covid + patient you're asking for an outbreak.
The point here is not to compare NY to other states.
The point is to question Governor Cuomo's orders to send Covid + patients to group homes, and then cover it up.
If other states did poorly too, two wrongs (or several wrongs) don't make a right. It would be up to the citizenry/legislature/state supreme court of those other states to look at their governors.
All that I'm saying is that Governor Cuomo did not act right on this and needs to be made accountable. If other governors did it too, then they need to be made accountable as well.

 

What did he do that was counter to CDC guidance?

 

My view is that it's not the action of putting covid patients into nursing homes that is getting him in trouble, it is the cover up. And then there is the harassment scandal. I have no problems with Cuomo resigning. We don't need any more family dynasties in US politics. We also don't need more Dem politicians who try to score votes on social issues, but who economically are Republicans in disguise.

 

Can't really hide behind CDC guidance, especially the Trump-Era CDC which issued a number of blunders. A governor has responsibility over his state. There are enough experts in New York he could have consulted, with outstanding medical schools there like Columbia, Cornell, and NYU. If the CDC guidance was wrong, it's no excuse, in my opinion.

 

But he is right. Stereotypes are accurate. Humans are rather good at making judgements with imperfect information.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/insight-therapy/201809/stereotype-accuracy-displeasing-truth

 

@CenterField
I view this kind of like the travel bans. They may have bought some time, but the end result is about the same.
I have never realized just how bad nursing homes are for Covid. Even now, with a years experience under out belt here are some results.

The COVID-19 death rate in U.S. nursing homes hit a new high in the weeks surrounding New Year’s Day, a new AARP analysis of federal data shows. It found that roughly 1 in every 51 residents died from COVID-19 over the four-week period from Dec. 21 to Jan. 17. A total of 19,299 deaths were reported.

The death rate captured in the analysis topped that of previous four-week reporting periods, making it the highest COVID-19 death rate reported to the government since the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) began requiring nursing homes to do so in late May.

While the record high death rate in the four weeks ending Jan. 17 represents only a slight increase from the previous month, when 1 in every 53 residents died from COVID-19, it is more than a quadrupling of the resident death rate at the end of the summer.

Twenty-three states and Washington, D.C., saw their resident death rates climb from the previous four-week reporting period, the analysis shows. Indiana recorded the highest death rate in the U.S., with roughly 1 in every 28 residents having died from COVID-19.

The analysis also shows that for the first time in months, the national rate of new COVID-19 infections among both residents and staff of nursing homes is coming down. Cases dropped slightly, from roughly 1 in every 9 residents between mid-November and mid-December to roughly 1 in every 11 residents between mid-December and mid-January. The infection rate also dropped slightly among nursing home staff, from around 1 staff infection for every 11 residents to 1 for every 12 residents for the same reporting periods.

It’s welcome news, given that nursing homes, along with other long-term care settings such as assisted living facilities, have been disproportionately affected by the COVID-19 pandemic. As of Feb. 4, almost 162,000 residents and staff of long-term care facilities have died from COVID-19, according to the COVID Tracking Project, accounting for roughly 36 percent of all U.S. COVID-19 fatalities.

Nursing Home Deaths Continue Record Highs Into New Year (aarp.org)

• shortages of coronavirus tests
• shortages of or lack of access to personal protective equipment (PPE) such as masks and gowns
• frequent physical contact between residents and staff
• understaffing
• employees who work in multiple facilities, increasing chances for exposure
• residents sharing rooms
  
• transfers of residents from hospitals and other settings

These factors make nursing homes potential breeding grounds for viral and bacterial diseases, especially given chronic problems with infection control that predate the pandemic. According to a recent federal report, 4 in 5 nursing homes surveyed between 2013 and 2017 were cited for deficiencies in infection prevention and control. Half were cited more than once during that time.

FAQs About Nursing Homes During the Coronavirus (aarp.org)

The cover up is often worse than the crime.
In Cuomo's case he had a real problem because he played Trump like a Base drum trying to get what he needed for his state.

 

Sure, you are right about it, and there's this "duh" effect, since this coronavirus is harsher on older people and nursing homes harbor... older people.
But this is a reason to protect them more, not less. It's a reason to avoid even more strongly, sending positive patients to them.
And like you said, the cover-up is bad.