“These Teacher Unions Are Out Of CONTROL”

There's the Republican spin version of the truth, the Democratic spin version of the truth, and then there's the truth.

 

Often there is no truth at all.

 

The guy's kid is TWO and no doubt going to daycare, not school.

Teachers are not part of an "elite." The very idea is dumb.

Are you one of the guys praising the Orange Oaf?

 

The truth does exist. I think too many have stopped looking for it.

 

I think he is wrong that there is a material difference in how one protects students depending on the size of the school. This issue isn't even about students. It is about teachers fighting the public and the science in order to continue getting paid for not working. It is truly deplorable.

 

Sure. I think the issue is that opinions are often confused with facts. This is particularly common in politics. Almost universal in polls where the results are guided by the wording of the questions and the choice of whom to ask the questions. Statistics are massaged to prove anything the statistician wants to say.

I'm reminded of a statistic I once saw that stated that 90 some percent of auto accidents occur within 25 miles of home. But isn't it true that 90 some percent of driving occurs within 25 miles of home? What was the point of providing such a statistic if not to guide some opinion? The statistic was probably true but it was meaningless. Happens all the time in politics.

 

He is the head of the union... not just a teacher... if he is even a teacher? You seem to miss the point in yet another thread.

He is dictating one set of rules for others, but refusing to live by them.

You're welcome.

 

Go ahead, tell us how stupid and unreasonable the parents are, and how powerless they are against the might of the teachers' union. Tell us how easily your big, superior brain can read the puny minds of those pinheaded parents. You know you want to.

Go ahead, toot your own horn hard.

Which made you the worst part of the problem.

The same can very accurately be said of the teachers' unions.

You'd be flexing the teachers' union muscle as hard as you could to protect the selfish interests of the teachers until you were forced to capitulate and compromise, exactly the same as this hypocrite did-

Parents fulminating blue in the face is apparently what it takes to force the teachers' union to back down on their self-serving demands.

Teacher vaccination isn't required only because the teachers' union capitulated on their "gold standard" demands after they caved to the pressure of fulminating parents.

 

He was talking about what? The size of the cohort student groups? My grandson is in a high school with 1,000+ students but reasonably small cohorts. He takes the usual eight courses, two at a time. Students who take both courses are grouped together. No one has gotten covid--his two teachers or about thirty students, every quarter. He's on his third set of two courses.

I have no idea what position the teachers' union, school district, or state government took in negotiations or what was happening in the school and community. Can we open schools safely in communities with a low transmission rate? I think so. What about communities with high transmission rates? Lots of considerations are in play.

If parents who want to work at home are given the option to do so, how much of the problem is solved by having fewer in-school students? There are teachers and students capable of using computers, meeting software, and a variety of computer applications to learn subjects. A lot of courses could be split into a combination of in-school and home instruction.

Anyway, I have no idea about the district's situation and I see no evidence you do, either.

No sale, amigo. I know too much--more than I would like to know, I'm afraid, about school board politics. It took three years to engineer the defeat of a Trump-like populist rightwing school board in a conservative community. The union openly opposed the board and supported conservative replacements. Yep, that's right. Conservative replacements.

School district and teachers' union fights can be about all sorts of things, largely because you only have their school for your kids. Sometimes the fights make sense, sometimes not. The sides can afford to fight because the customers keep coming.

One thing--their schools shouldn't be open for in-school instruction if they aren't operating within CDC guidelines.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/index.html

 

Nice try. I said schools should open if they operate within CDC guidelines.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/index.html

Didn't happen. Wouldn't happen. We worked closely with parent council.

You're barking up the wrong tree when you try to stir up parents against teachers. It doesn't work. Teachers go directly to the parents.

Oh, you wish, hoping you can pick on teachers and make political points. It's a losing strategy.

Going after the teachers' union president doesn't work, either.

 

Every parent knows daycare is expensive and private. You look dumb by calling him a hypocrite for taking his two-year-old to daycare.

Union local heads are almost always teachers who came up through the ranks.

 

Yeah, it's called "propaganda."

Pols tell you whatever works. If we don't say, "Hey, just a minute--I'm not going to put up with you telling lies..." and mean it, we'll get lots of lies.

 

""Teacher slams ‘rich, white parents.’ “All the rich white parents suddenly concerned about mental health can take a seat.”

“Suddenly” after kids spent a year locked down at home while even teachers with vaccinations refuse to go back to school."

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/435314/

 

"Public School Superintendent Who Warned Pod-Based Learning ‘Causes Inequities’ Is Sending His Own Kid to Private School.

It’s lying, hypocritical hacks all the way down."

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/435612/

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Having been a high school teacher in my past, I also have some experience with how they work. I stand by my comments.

 

Well, ummm, it is literally your job! Don't like it? Get another job. The fact is, most parents aren't qualified to teach and distance learning is ineffective. Our children's education is important and if you won't do it we should find someone who will.

 

Said no one. What a disingenuous mess.

 

Cool, then I can have my taxes slashed with almost no harm the the budget. Let's get it done!

 

As you wish. Personally, I think we all should be paying more.

 

What comments are those?

 

I worked in the public school system and wouldn't have hesitated to enrol my daughter in a private school if we couldn't have put her in a language immersion program in a public high school. I support school vouchers, btw.

Why is this guy a hypocrite for putting his kid in a private school?

 

The ones I have posted on this thread.

 

Thank you, I'm thinking of running for President once I make my first billion from several criminal enterprises and it's never too early to get into practice.

 

Isn't that like giving a drunk more alcohol in the hopes he'll stop drinking in excess? Or in the government's case pork-barrel spending, I could go along with it if I saw my money being used for the betterment of the country rather than paying off special interest donors and harebrained schemes around the world.

 

Okay. Whatever.