Democrats really have a two faced problem.

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  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    There weren't any others...
     
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    So no other context is needed? That must be convenient.
     
  3. garyd

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    The same structures the same people running them. The only thing that's changed is AOC isnt lying about it now.
     
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    THERE IS NO THREAT TO THE CAPITOL IN WASHINGTON


    THERE WAS NO INSURRECTION ON JAN 6th.. just a riot which turned violent, sound familiar? An insurrection would be an army of armed militia attempting to overthrow the government? Not a bunch of loonies wearing horns and sitting on desks to pose for a pic

    DISGRACEFUL LIES, in order to divide and conquer


    Meanwhile, at the border, thousands of criminals cross over, drugs pour in and human trafficking, smuggling a flourishing business..

    facts
     
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    The difference worth mentioning was Trump's policy of seperating children from their parents long term with little to no accountibility. I think that is a pretty important distinction.

    Of course I am still trying to wrap my head around how dems can have children locked in cages exactly like Trump while at the same time have an open borders policy. Tough to reconcile those seemingly conflicting statements.
     
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    In no definition of insurrection have I seen the requirement of an "army". Did you add that?

    FYI, based on 2nd amendment precedent, the insurrectionists were armed militia.

    Thousands of illegals crossing hecause of both parties, not just democrats. Illegals are a bipartisan issue.
     
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    Dude, 20 to 30 percent of minors weren't traveling with a biogical parent and DNA tests take time. Trump was trying to stop child trafficking.
     
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    It was 20 percent.

    New rapid DNA testing that was used takes 90 minutes.

    If kids can not be DNA tested in 90 minutes without loosing contact of their parents for weeks or months...or even in perpituty; then we either have a policy problem or their was some epic level incompatance involved.
     
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    No they fall under the category of family and friends.
     
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    They did find there parents most had returned to their home countries and wanted their kids to stay here.
     
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    So if they're not your family or friend, then you don't care about them?
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    No, I asked, what was the alternative for unaccompanied minors under Trump? As in minors who arrived unaccompanied.

    And people can't lie about where they will be?

    What about people who are not claiming asylum? Those who end up in prison for illegally entering the country?
     
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    It may have been more of a fence than a wall, but it wasn't the same as what was being used before.
     
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    Not really no.
     
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    You don't care about the thousands killed on 9/11?
     
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    Most liberals wont even care to try it.
     
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    It's called "double standards", a.k.a. "hypocrisy". :lol:
     
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    Nope, its called the difference between a building and a country.
     
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    "A riot that turned violent"? What would a riot that does not turn violent look like?

    But it does kinda sound familiar. It sounds a bit like the lie wingnut media has been trying to convince Trump loyalists of. But it's lame. I mean... .Trump made very clear what the intention of the riot was: overturn the elections. In any dictionary, any Political Science writing, ... anything you can think of (except in wingnut fantasyland), that's called "insurrection"

    That's an armed insurrection. Though many of the insurrectionists were armed, or armed themselves at the premises with anything they could find (like fire extinguishers) being armed is not a requirement for something to be an insurrection.
     
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    The Trump administration tossed unaccompanied minors in with the children the separated from their parents.

    Yes, they can lie, and the usual result is that they would then have to hide for the rest of their lives from ICE. Obama deports more of these, and the ones who committed actual crimes here, than Trump ever bothered to do.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-ta...ts-and-deportations-have-changed-under-trump/

    This is from more than a year ago, but it's factual given that most of the world has been hunkered down due to the virus:

    https://thehill.com/latino/470900-deportations-lower-under-trump-than-obama-report


    The above also covers your last question, about illegals other than asylum seekers.
     
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