House to vote on HR 1 government overhaul, policing bill first week of March

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The first week of March will be a big one in the House as Democratic leaders bring two top party priorities to the floor: a government overhaul measure given the coveted bill number HR 1 and legislation named after George Floyd that would overhaul policing laws.

Hoyer in his letter called HR 1 "the centerpiece of Democrats’ agenda to make government more transparent and accountable to the people it serves. "

HR 1, which contains changes to campaign finance, voting and ethics laws, was the first big bill Democrats passed in 2019 after their return to the House majority.
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https://www.rollcall.com/2021/02/16...t-overhaul-policing-bill-first-week-of-march/

My source article doesn't contain much about the bill itself, so I include Wiki, which gives a summary of the key provisions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_the_People_Act

I've read all of them and don't see a single thing I fully disagree with. Until DeJoy is fired, I'm not sure I'd push too hard for massive vote-by-mail, but requiring states to allow it via the bill is still a good thing...

I'm sure somebody is going to come on here with the same tired old chestnut about states controlling elections, but that silliness has to end, and this seems like the best way to start down that road...

If you are going to whine about anything in HR1, be SPECIFIC about which provision(s) you don't like, or you won't get any response (from me anyway)

I've also read this could be the bill that ends the Senate filibuster, because even the GOP knows most of this bill is popular across party lines..

Question 1 - Will a single R support this in the House? We can deal with the Senate later...

 

It looks like complete garbage meant to seize power indefinitely.

• Prohibits voter ID requirements and restricts signature matching (only Banana Republics and Authoritarian Regimes have no Voter I.D. throughout the world)
  
• Automatic voter registration (No thanks - Informed Voters are preferred - We don't need millions and millions of ballots mailed out to people that have no desire to vote and are not tracking those ballots.)
  
• Put limits on the systems, data required, and time frames by which states can remove voters from the voter rolls (This after we found over 5 million bad voters in California... run by Democrats. LA County had over 1.5 million bad voters alone!)
  
• Takes redistricting out of the control of state legislature (No thanks - Local Control is preferred over Federal Control)
  
• Prohibits states from restricting felons from voting (No thanks - They are felons)
  
• Taxpayer funding of campaigns through a matching scheme to multiply small donations (No Thanks - Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden spent over $1 Billion on their campaigns. They don't need more Tax Payer dollars.)

That's a hard pass.

 

How does this benefit society?

 

1 - You've been misinformed - it doesn't prohibit voter ID requirements, it restricts it for mail in
2 - Nothing wrong with automatically registering voting eligible people. Nobody's talking about mailing out ballots here, so nice strawman...
3 - Yep.... I approve... no voter roll adjustments within 6 months of an election. Nothing wrong with that.
4 - Yep. but your assertion is wrong.. it's still at done the local level, with firm guidelines
5 - Yep, but only after completing their sentences (and none of that cheap Florida bullshit about fines)
6 - Anything that begins the override of Citizens United has my support

Pretty much all of your misunderstandings are corrected in here...

https://www.politifact.com/article/2021/feb/03/fact-checking-misleading-attacks-hr-1-democrats-vo/

 

So perfectly fair elections like 2020 become the norm and sore losers have even less to bitch about.. not that this will stop that....

 

And as always, if T**** opposes something with all his (limited) being, I support it even more on the other side (and vice versa)

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/trumps-delusional-attacks-h-r-183100759.html

Remember, he really only has 2 gears.... fear and greed.... HR1 goes to the first one....

 

If there is no benefit to society, why burden the tax payer with it?

 

Is this where they defund the police?

 

I didn't say that (of course), but perhaps if somebody puts it in a way you can understand it, that will help

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As Josh Silver of Represent.Us told me when we discussed H.R. 1 in January, the stakes are rather significant. "If we don't see sweeping reforms that are contained in this bill passed," he said, "we are ****ed as a nation."
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https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/trumps-delusional-attacks-h-r-183100759.html

I'd say that's a solid benefit, as that doesn't sound pleasant...

 

Can you describe the benefit?

 

Do you have anything else besides what some unknown person has to say?

 

Sounds like a hard pass.

Banana republic here we come if dems manage to continue their authoritarian grab for power.

 

Incorrect, that is simply a delusion you have taken a liking to because the MSM told you so.

But by all means, oppose everything Trump has ever done. It doesn’t help you in the long run.

In fact, I genuinely think you should. Expedite the coming flip of culture.

 

It wasnt a fair election. Observers could not observe.

Racist joe is an illegitimate president.

 

Joe Biden is not the president. He is a puppet. The Harris Administration is running the show behind closed doors. President Kamala Harris.

She and Hillary are both evil lying women. They are about as great as a turd floating around in a toilet.

Joe said on tv the other day at a press conference in a confused voice "What am I doing here?" After failing to say a friends name right. He does not even know what he is doing so why did he even run?

As for the OP I wont support the bills. Anything the Democrats want is usually bad or hidden under a bunch of turds with lipstick so I don't trust ethier bill. I could read them but I'm sure the Democrats won't surprise me.

 

Already made a thread on this: LINK: H.R. 1 - 117th Congress "For the People Act of 2021" | PoliticalForum.com - Forum for US and Intl Politics

You'll find my comments in it. You see, I actually read the bill. I didn't depend on others to tell me what was in it. You should do the same and then come to your own conclusions.

 

False. The only "exception" is subsection c of SEC. 303A.

Notice the part that I bolded. That section bypasses all state Voter ID laws.

Subsection C reads as follows:

And that is the ONLY exception.

 

Yeah...so fair. Making it to where everyone and anyone can vote and we'll never be able to find out if fraud actually occurs.

 

I have to assume every state is currently capable of determining if ineligible people are attempting to vote.

If they're not, that's even a bigger reason to begin to federally standardize elections...

 

I have no problem with a signed statement under penalty of perjury for somebody who doesn't have or forgot their ID, as long as they are on the voting roll... Getting on a voting roll to begin with requires some sort of proof of residency to begin with (at least in my state).

And this law still doesn't PROHIBIT voting ID laws, as that other poster stated....

 

The only ones that can determine that is the IRS. They are the only ones with a full list of SSN's. And they are forbidden from giving out such information. Not that such matters with this bill since only the last 4 digits of a SSN is needed. 10,000 combinations, 325 million people. Yeah...that's going to go well.

 

So, you're going to trust people? You do know millions of identity theft instances happen every year right? And that is not an exaggeration. And getting on the voter roll isn't going to be all that hard with automatic sign ups.

Yeah, sure....if you want to get technical about it. Not that any such law is going to do any good when they can just turn in a piece of paper "swearing" that they are truly who they say they are.

 

Democrats are making the elections so easy to defraud with their bulk mail ballots that nobody will ever believe the results.

The shadow cabal is in control. Democrats like Tulsi Gabbard will be shut out.

 

She'll get shutout because nobody likes her....

You want her? She's yours... She'd immediately shoot to the best candidate you have, but can't crack the top 10 for D's....

 

Steven crowder is doing great work showing how Democrats cheat. They literally use fake addresses. When they got caught, they went into the voter rolls and changed the fake addresses to new fake addresses.

The shadow cabal is in charge.