There's something fishy going on in the International Space Station

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  1. Betamax101

    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    It isn't an anomaly it is the idiotic opinion of the video maker. Now yours it seems. His video is replete with one useless claim after another which as usual you have no problem sucking up like a fly on dog mess.


    Go to 60 seconds on this tour video: Now, look at the cables on the left. They are completely stationary, they are stiffened plastic! Further, she knocks into it making it move left and from SHAPE MEMORY! which you denied, it springs back. Now for crying out loud, remove your awful conspiracy blinkers and start using some critical thinking!



    This is just the rather strange barometer you use to "assess things". Once again you are a very inept layman in everything you comment on, but for some bizarre reason you think your opinion carries some sort of trump card over ride. It doesn't - you know as little about anything as it has my misfortune to come across, your major skillset is the ability to irritate with spam.

    Debunking The Apollo Moon Hoax (debunking-a-moron.blogspot.com)
    6. Credibility Test: "This calls for a credibility test. XXXXXXX maintains that the Chinese spacewalk was real and not faked in a water tank. Do you agree with him?

    This is where the spammer uses one of his pre-determined idiotic conspiracies or erroneous claims as the yardstick for a credibility test. He is the arbitrator of its provenance therefore anyone who disagrees with it can now be referred to as "discredited" and all their rebuttal can be ignored.

    12. Credibility Referbacks: When this hopeless individual has no answers he often resorts to just one liners concerning previous bullshit "Credibility Tests".

    "You've already said some pretty lame things so your judgement is obviously flawed."

    "....said the Man who tried to obfuscate the clear evidence of the Chinese Spacewalk"

    **********************************************************************************************************


    1. No shimmering whatsoever - this is where you explain how that is even remotely possible. There is light everywhere which you yourself insisted, yet there is no shimmering at all from the inevitable and unavoidable movement of water currents.

    2. Now ask yourself something blindingly obvious. To anyone with a brain she is in space. What crazy world of conspiracy internet mental gymnastics do they need to use an ISS background picture!

    3. Your opinion is useless and you are evading this obvious gif. It goes diagonally, it is white, flat, jagged and rotates.

    [​IMG]

    4. Objects on the Chinese Spacewalk: They all go in various directions and if I recall your useless counterclaim was some absurd reference to imaginary wave blowers!

    "A wave blower would set up a continuous current and would not magically disappear once it hits an object. if there were 2, one either side as suggested, there would now be cross currents. These in turn would cause significant instability of anything caught in its wake. There are no signs of turbulence you would expect from water movement, or no additional light refraction. Wave blowers are introduced by the film maker to explain why the "bubbles" don't rise vertically, a logical fallacy and bunkum."

    5. Using a water tank for a hoax: Nobody would consider such idiotic ideas - the mechanical motion in water is nothing like weightlessness, because EVERY action in water has a reaction due to friction. Motion problems ensue.
     
  2. Scott

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    You finally addressed it instead of ranting. I agree with you now on this issue. Now I think it may or may not be a picture. I still think this shows gravity though.


    You tried to obfuscate the clear evidence of buoyancy in the Chinese space walk by using the shape-memory argument so I'm not going to just take your word on anything.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-sir-questions-sir.211182/page-6#post-4787111

    You totally destroyed your credibility when you tried to obfuscate the anomalies in the Chinese spacewalk.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/the-chinese-spacewalk-was-faked.578673/

    Why don't you go to that thread so we can discuss some of them?
     
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    Shutup. You, the person who avoids hundreds of items has the audacity to say that!

    Are you seriously that useless you can't look for these mind numbingly easy to find explanations?!

    Your opinion is worthless and very irrelevant.

    Pathetic. Your opinion made hundreds of times is meaningless drivel. Cables don't float in water and the video is replete with sections where the same cables move sideways. Shape memory whether you are smart enough to understand it or not.

    http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.com/2012/02/very-troubled-individual.html?m=1

    6. Credibility Test: "This calls for a credibility test. XXXXXXX maintains that the Chinese spacewalk was real and not faked in a water tank. Do you agree with him?

    This is where the spammer uses one of his pre-determined idiotic conspiracies or erroneous claims as the yardstick for a credibility test. He is the arbitrator of its provenance therefore anyone who disagrees with it can now be referred to as "discredited" and all their rebuttal can be ignored.


    You just spammed the same credibility bullshit. Besides, unless your memory is worse than your bumbling on the internet, I've covered all your horseshit already!! Are you crazy? You just linked to one example of dozens of your off topic spam!


    http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.com/2011/07/chinese-spacewalks-part-1.html?m=1

    http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.com/2011/07/chinese-spacewalks-part-2.html?m=1
     
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    When can we expect answers!! And you want me to go to another spam thread where you will do the same thing on a subject already addressed dozens of times!
     
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    Translation:
    The proof that the Chinese spacewalk is so clear that I'll just look silly if I try to obfuscate it so I'd better avoid addressing it.

    Ok. We'll talk about it here.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/the-chinese-spacewalk-was-faked.578673/

    Explain the force that makes the flag flutter when the astronaut pulls the flag from right to left at the thirty second time mark of this video.

    Chinese Space Walk - 2008




    The bubble hugs the astronaut`s visor and then goes straight up which is consistent with what a bubble would do. A piece of debris would go straight along it's original trajectory. It also looks like a bubble.

    Proof China Faked Their Spacewalk (Part 2)

    (2:02 time mark)


    The other anomalies have already proven that they were in a water tank so the explanation is that something was causing the water to move. Our not knowing exactly what it was doesn't make the other anomalies go away.
     
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    None needed. The statement is self evident and proved by your link to a totally off topic series of posts by you, already covering the same spammed horseshit you now wish to rake up again - then as usual you will subsequently ignore!

    Debunking The Apollo Moon Hoax (debunking-a-moron.blogspot.com)

    13. Moronic Translations: This is the ridiculous post where he interprets his crazy viewpoint on something regardless of how many times it has already been addressed. It usually has some bearing on his equally moronic "Credibility Tests".

    "Translation: The proof that the Chinese spacewalk is so clear that I'll just look silly if I try to obfuscate it so I'd better avoid addressing it."

    You claim the footage has been sped up to allow the flag to appear "normal"!

    How much slower should the footage be running at - ie. 30% 50% - define it?

    The piece of rotating, jagged ice.

    Rises out of the hatch and is deflected by his visor.

    It goes diagonally.

    Nope. A bubble in areas where people are breathing is almost impossible to be a singular item. It rises vertically and doesn't change size by 400% in a short span of ascent. It isn't jagged, doesn't rotate and isn't white and flat!

    Not always, sometimes it can change direction from heat on the ice. But I laugh at your statement - it is ridiculous.

    Your "bubble" goes "straight up" / A piece of debris would "go straight". - Explain to me how these two are different!!

    THERE is your real credibility test.

    [​IMG]

    That looks NOTHING like a bubble and EVERYTHING like a flat jagged piece of rotating ice.

    There are no anomalies.

    Debunking The Apollo Moon Hoax: The Chinese Spacewalks - Part 1 (debunking-a-moron.blogspot.com)
    Debunking The Apollo Moon Hoax: The Chinese Spacewalks - Part 2 (debunking-a-moron.blogspot.com)

    Absolutely absurd circular reasoning with a ridiculous and unfeasible "solution". ANY movement in water will move the astronauts and all the cables continuously!

    The other "anomalies" have gone away with simple observational evidence, your lack of response to this fundamental question is most telling. You are checkmated. The objects fly in a whole myriad of directions and you simply cannot explain why.

    The guy who made your main film:-

    Says your stupid "bubble" changes direction! (I dare you to dispute this.)
    911 was not an inside job
    The Moon landing was not hoaxed.

    This is where you make the absurd claim that he was "got at" when there are dozens of people still making idiotic films and claims on these subjects with far more views! Your witness disagrees with you, just like Chomsky.
     
  7. Scott

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    You're dodging the issue because it has you checkmated. In that request that you analyze an alleged anomaly I said nothing about sped up footage. Just address the issue. Here it is again.

    Explain the force that makes the flag flutter when the astronaut pulls the flag from right to left at the thirty second time mark of this video.

    Chinese Space Walk - 2008



    As far as I'm concerned, this anomaly proves that it was faked in a water tank by itself.
     
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    You just dodged 90% of my post because you are a "layman" who knows nothing!

    Are you saying that you have never claimed the footage has been slowed down??

    How much slower should the footage be running at - ie. 30% 50% - define it?

    You are a layman. You have no relevant education, if any, that is qualified to assess anything in space. You are basically fumbling about making a claim when the guy is just trailing a flag around during a spacewalk. I guarantee you won't answer the stuff below because you are once again getting your butt kicked.

    This seems to have you checkmated:
    Are you saying that you have never claimed the footage has been slowed down?? How much slower should the footage be running at - ie. 30% 50% - define it?

    So do these:


    1. The other "anomalies" have gone away with simple observational evidence, your lack of response to this fundamental question is most telling. You are checkmated. The objects fly in a whole myriad of directions and you simply cannot explain why.

    2. The guy who made your main film:-

    Says your stupid "bubble" changes direction! (I dare you to dispute this.)
    911 was not an inside job
    The Moon landing was not hoaxed.

    This is where you make the absurd claim that he was "got at" when there are dozens of people still making idiotic films and claims on these subjects with far more views! Your witness disagrees with you, just like Chomsky.

    3. THERE is your real credibility test.

    [​IMG]

    That looks NOTHING like a bubble and EVERYTHING like a flat jagged piece of rotating ice. A bubble in areas where people are breathing is almost impossible to be a singular item. It rises vertically and doesn't change size by 400% in a short span of ascent. It isn't jagged, doesn't rotate and isn't white and flat!

    4. I laugh at your statement - it is ridiculous.

    Your "bubble" goes "straight up" / A piece of debris would "go straight". - Explain to me how these two are different!!
     
  9. Scott

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    You can pretend all you want. That anomaly is so clear that you can't try to obfuscate it without looking silly so you're tap dancing around instead of addressing it. An objective truth-seeker would simply address the issue directly. All the viewers can see this. You're all washed up (again).
     
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    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    You spam this horseshit so many times you seem to forget that we have already had this exchange!! You are afraid to answer the points below. I'm not letting you get away with ignoring any of it!

     
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    If you refuse to address what I call a clear anomaly, all I can say is Checkmate.

    Objective truth-seekers don't get checkmated. They modify their opinions when they're shown to be wrong.
     
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    I addressed it a few times last time was 4 months ago. You spam this horseshit so many times you forget where you get your ass kicked. Show your scientific methodology as to why it is an anomaly!

    You are the opposite of both of those. You are afraid to answer numerous points.

    Something in 20 years you have never done, despite being wrong about virtually every piece of bullshit you post!


    You just dodged 90% of my post because you are a "layman" who knows nothing!

    Are you saying that you have never claimed the footage has been slowed down??

    How much slower should the footage be running at - ie. 30% 50% - define it?

    You are a layman. You have no relevant education, if any, that is qualified to assess anything in space. You are basically fumbling about making a claim when the guy is just trailing a flag around during a spacewalk. I guarantee you won't answer the stuff below because you are once again getting your butt kicked.

    This seems to have you checkmated:
    Are you saying that you have never claimed the footage has been slowed down?? How much slower should the footage be running at - ie. 30% 50% - define it?

    So do these:


    1. The other "anomalies" have gone away with simple observational evidence, your lack of response to this fundamental question is most telling. You are checkmated. The objects fly in a whole myriad of directions and you simply cannot explain why.

    2. The guy who made your main film:-

    Says your stupid "bubble" changes direction! (I dare you to dispute this.)
    911 was not an inside job
    The Moon landing was not hoaxed.

    This is where you make the absurd claim that he was "got at" when there are dozens of people still making idiotic films and claims on these subjects with far more views! Your witness disagrees with you, just like Chomsky.

    3. THERE is your real credibility test.

    [​IMG]

    That looks NOTHING like a bubble and EVERYTHING like a flat jagged piece of rotating ice. A bubble in areas where people are breathing is almost impossible to be a singular item. It rises vertically and doesn't change size by 400% in a short span of ascent. It isn't jagged, doesn't rotate and isn't white and flat!

    4. I laugh at your statement - it is ridiculous.

    Your "bubble" goes "straight up" / A piece of debris would "go straight". - Explain to me how these two are different!!
     
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    If you're not checkmated, address this directly right now.

    (from post #30)
     
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    Can't you read spammer?

    Perhaps you have spammed this same identical horseshit too many times you've forgotten. And look at you playing the fool, ignoring this huge post of mine and demanding an answer already given when you NEVER do the same. You really are some piece of work!

    Are you saying now that the footage is running at the correct speed? Afraid to answer? I already have the posts where you said it was speeded up, so no wonder you cannot answer this!


    AGAIN:
    I addressed it a few times last time was 4 months ago. You are basically fumbling about making a claim when the guy is just trailing a flag around during a spacewalk. I guarantee you won't answer the stuff below because you are once again getting your butt kicked. Show your scientific methodology as to why it is an anomaly!


    These seem to have you checkmated:

    1. Are you saying that you have never claimed the footage has been slowed down? How much slower should the footage be running at - ie. 30% 50% - define it?

    2. The other "anomalies" have gone away with simple observational evidence, your lack of response to this fundamental question is most telling. You are checkmated. The objects fly in a whole myriad of directions and you simply cannot explain why.

    3. The guy who made your main film:-

    Says your stupid "bubble" changes direction! (I dare you to dispute this.)
    911 was not an inside job
    The Moon landing was not hoaxed.

    This is where you make the absurd claim that he was "got at" when there are dozens of people still making idiotic films and claims on these subjects with far more views! Your witness disagrees with you, just like Chomsky.

    4. THERE is your real credibility test.

    [​IMG]

    That looks NOTHING like a bubble and EVERYTHING like a flat jagged piece of rotating ice. A bubble in areas where people are breathing is almost impossible to be a singular item. It rises vertically and doesn't change size by 400% in a short span of ascent. It isn't jagged, doesn't rotate and isn't white and flat!

    5. I laugh at your statement - it is ridiculous.

    Your "bubble" goes "straight up" / A piece of debris would "go straight". - Explain to me how these two are different!
     
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    You refuse to address this anomaly directly because you know that the movement of the flag is impossible in a vacuum. It's so obvious that water is causing the flag to move that you'll just look silly if you try to obfuscate it.

    Stop tap dancing around the issue and address it.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...l-space-station.585456/page-2#post-1072480025
     
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    Can't you read spammer?

    Perhaps you have spammed this same identical horseshit too many times you've forgotten. And look at you playing the fool, ignoring this huge post of mine and demanding an answer already given when you NEVER do the same. You really are some piece of work!

    Are you saying now that the footage is running at the correct speed? Afraid to answer? I already have the posts where you said it was speeded up, so no wonder you cannot answer this!

    I addressed it a few times last time was 4 months ago. You are basically fumbling about making a claim when the guy is just trailing a flag around during a spacewalk. I guarantee you won't answer the stuff below because you are once again getting your butt kicked.

    Try not to impose your own layman incompetence on others - I know it is in a vacuum.


    Show your scientific methodology as to why it is an anomaly! Your opinion is less than most and not even close to scientific.

    Stop tap dancing around the issue and address these - they definitely have you checkmated:

    1. Are you saying that you have never claimed the footage has been slowed down? How much slower should the footage be running at - ie. 30% 50% - define it?

    2. The other "anomalies" have gone away with simple observational evidence, your lack of response to this fundamental question is most telling. You are checkmated. The objects fly in a whole myriad of directions and you simply cannot explain why.

    3. The guy who made your main film:-

    Says your stupid "bubble" changes direction! (I dare you to dispute this.)
    911 was not an inside job
    The Moon landing was not hoaxed.

    This is where you make the absurd claim that he was "got at" when there are dozens of people still making idiotic films and claims on these subjects with far more views! Your witness disagrees with you, just like Chomsky.

    4. THERE is your real credibility test.

    [​IMG]

    That looks NOTHING like a bubble and EVERYTHING like a flat jagged piece of rotating ice. A bubble in areas where people are breathing is almost impossible to be a singular item. It rises vertically and doesn't change size by 400% in a short span of ascent. It isn't jagged, doesn't rotate and isn't white and flat!

    5. I laugh at your statement - it is ridiculous.

    Your "bubble" goes "straight up" / A piece of debris would "go straight". - Explain to me how these two are different!
     
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    Explain the force that's making the flag flutter.

    I say it's the same force that's making these flags flutter.

    USS Spiegle Grove Dive 1 - USA flag waves underwater


    Diving Turkey underwater turkish flag
     
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    Spare me your gish gallup!! The same force? Are you crazy, they are slow billowing in your videos, the Chinese spacewalk looks NOTHING like it - much faster and ZERO billowing!

    Show your scientific methodology as to why it is an anomaly! Your opinion is less than most and not even close to scientific.

    I guarantee you won't answer the stuff below because you are once again getting your butt kicked.

    Stop tap dancing around the issue and address these - they definitely have you checkmated:

    1. Are you saying that you have never claimed the footage has been slowed down? How much slower should the footage be running at - ie. 30% 50% - define it?

    2. The other "anomalies" have gone away with simple observational evidence, your lack of response to this fundamental question is most telling. You are checkmated. The objects fly in a whole myriad of directions and you simply cannot explain why.

    3. The guy who made your main film:-

    Says your stupid "bubble" changes direction! (I dare you to dispute this.)
    911 was not an inside job
    The Moon landing was not hoaxed.

    This is where you make the absurd claim that he was "got at" when there are dozens of people still making idiotic films and claims on these subjects with far more views! Your witness disagrees with you, just like Chomsky.

    4. THERE is your real credibility test.

    [​IMG]

    That looks NOTHING like a bubble and EVERYTHING like a flat jagged piece of rotating ice. A bubble in areas where people are breathing is almost impossible to be a singular item. It rises vertically and doesn't change size by 400% in a short span of ascent. It isn't jagged, doesn't rotate and isn't white and flat!

    5. I laugh at your statement - it is ridiculous.

    Your "bubble" goes "straight up" / A piece of debris would "go straight". - Explain to me how these two are different!
     
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    The material is stiffer. There's also the factor of different speed of water flow over the flag.

    It's an anomaly because the only identifiable force that would make it move in that way would be its traveling through an air or liquid medium.

    Tell us what you think the force that makes the flag move is.
     
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    It moved through a vacuum.

    It looked like it moved through a vacuum.

    It did not move through water.

    The chinese space walk was real case closed
     
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    Spare me your gish gallup!! The same force? Are you crazy, they are slow billowing in your videos, the Chinese spacewalk looks NOTHING like it - much faster and ZERO billowing! If you say they are different because they are not the same material and water is moving, how the crap can you say they are the same! I already identified the force moving the flag 4 months ago.

    Show your scientific methodology as to why it is an anomaly! Your opinion is less than most and not even close to scientific.

    I guarantee you won't answer the stuff below because you are once again getting your butt kicked.

    Stop tap dancing around the issue and address these - they definitely have you checkmated:

    1. Are you saying that you have never claimed the footage has been slowed down? How much slower should the footage be running at - ie. 30% 50% - define it?

    2. The other "anomalies" have gone away with simple observational evidence, your lack of response to this fundamental question is most telling. You are checkmated. The objects fly in a whole myriad of directions and you simply cannot explain why.

    3. The guy who made your main film:-

    Says your stupid "bubble" changes direction! (I dare you to dispute this.)
    911 was not an inside job
    The Moon landing was not hoaxed.

    This is where you make the absurd claim that he was "got at" when there are dozens of people still making idiotic films and claims on these subjects with far more views! Your witness disagrees with you, just like Chomsky.

    4. THERE is your real credibility test.

    [​IMG]

    That looks NOTHING like a bubble and EVERYTHING like a flat jagged piece of rotating ice. A bubble in areas where people are breathing is almost impossible to be a singular item. It rises vertically and doesn't change size by 400% in a short span of ascent. It isn't jagged, doesn't rotate and isn't white and flat!

    5. I laugh at your statement - it is ridiculous.

    Your "bubble" goes "straight up" / A piece of debris would "go straight". - Explain to me how these two are different!
     
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    I asked you to explain what the force that made the flag flutter was. The only force that I can identify is its traveling through some kind of medium which rules out a vacuum. If you know what the force is, please tell us.
     
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    You asked me to reply to this did you? I asked you to reply to my stuff and you fail every time because you are cornered. See below - answer it
    .
    You're not looking very hard are you if you think an external force is the only force acting on a hand held flag!!

    Answered already 4 months ago and a few times before then. I refuse to play "placate the spammer" - you are so deluded with your crazy theories you spam them so much you appear to be losing track of the dozens of times you have splattered this identical crap on this forum!

    Show your scientific methodology as to why it is an anomaly! Your opinion is less than most and not even close to scientific.

    I guarantee (and this is now proven from your failure to do so!) you won't answer the stuff below because you are once again getting your butt kicked.

    Stop tap dancing around the issue and address these - they definitely have you checkmated:

    1. Are you saying that you have never claimed the footage has been slowed down? How much slower should the footage be running at - ie. 30% 50% - define it?

    2. The other "anomalies" have gone away with simple observational evidence, your lack of response to this fundamental question is most telling. You are checkmated. The objects fly in a whole myriad of directions and you simply cannot explain why.

    3. The guy who made your main film:-

    Says your stupid "bubble" changes direction! (I dare you to dispute this.)
    911 was not an inside job
    The Moon landing was not hoaxed.

    This is where you make the absurd claim that he was "got at" when there are dozens of people still making idiotic films and claims on these subjects with far more views! Your witness disagrees with you, just like Chomsky.

    4. THERE is your real credibility test.

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    That looks NOTHING like a bubble and EVERYTHING like a flat jagged piece of rotating ice. A bubble in areas where people are breathing is almost impossible to be a singular item. It rises vertically and doesn't change size by 400% in a short span of ascent. It isn't jagged, doesn't rotate and isn't white and flat!

    5. I laugh at your statement - it is ridiculous.

    Your "bubble" goes "straight up" / A piece of debris would "go straight". - Explain to me how these two are different! [/QUOTE]
     
  24. Scott

    Scott Well-Known Member

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    If you know, tell us. Is it a secret?

    I don't know where the post is where you addressed this. Please link to it if you're not going to explain it.
     
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    It's obvious to anyone with a brain.

    Are you sure? It makes you look REALLY dumb. I already alluded to it before and of course you ignored it. You claimed the footage was speeded up but then you claim the flag is fluttering - this is why as somebody who claims to invoke the scientific method the first point of call is how much do you claim it has been speeded up!

    So, is it a secret?

    btw: I misread the date I found for one reply, it was from October 2017! That is how ludicrous you are, still posting this same horseshit over and over again!
     
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