This Woke Cancel culture Of Product Mascots, and Cartoons Is Actually Racist

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    EyesWideOpen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Forcing Sporting teams to change their mascots, banning books, telling white people not to "culturally appropriate" clothing and jewelry, to not translate literature, banning books, and even the mascots on maple syrup bottles... well.... it's exactly what a white supremacist would desire.

    People who are on board with all of the above, cannot see the clear effects of this - it amy as well be driven by white racists!!

    So they want to ban the image of Aunt Jemima. they also want to ban images and mascots of any person of color, of products ranging from food, to sports, to literature, and anything else. Then they want to prohibit white people from adopting any form of expression in art, music, or anything thing else, in which the source might be even loosely connected to a non-white culture. No hoop earrings, no dance or art form which might be viewed as being "cultural appropriated" from a non-white society.

    Isn't this exactly what a white supremacist would demand of their children? Don't use any product, don't sing any song by a black or Hispanic artist. Don't perform any dance move,or wear clothing that is of non-white origins. Don't be involved with any group or activity which copies, or pays respect to a non-white. A white racist would not want his child enjoying a Dr. Suess book that depicts a Asian man, so this needs to be removed from the shools. Nope, can't have that. All art and literature must be scrubbed of any non-white images, or fictional characters. The racist would not want any endearing, sympathetic, or motivational depictions of non-whites. The KKK parent cannot have their child enjoying pancakes and looking at the face of a black woman on the yummy syrup bottle. [​IMG]

    Meanwhile, the white supremacist parent is happy to allow their children to look at white faces and enjoy products like "Little Debbie," "Dolly Madison," "Captain Crunch," Lucky the Leprechaun, etc... These are all mascots and images that are not banned. Essentially, whiteness will be allowed to be portrayed in products. People of color will be encouraged to patronize and / or pay respect to white American and European mascots, products images that are used by their favorite sporting team. The same with culturally white American and European clothing, music, art, and cultural items.

    Apparently, these woke white will only be satisfied when only the products, from clothing, art forms, activities and art forms, etc... are culturally specific to white people
     
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    Aunt Jemima (Nancy Green) in real life was a former slave. Question is, does that offend blacks or the opposite because it shows progress, as in someone overcoming it. I have no clue! But I think this stuff is all a big overreach and unnecessary and there are bigger issues in the world than food labels that we should be concerned with.
     
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    I think it's a mistake to assume that white supremacists don't want to see minorities. Rather, they don't want to see minorities shown as equal to whites. So racist charicatures are fine by them. Especially like those in the Dr. Seuss books of note, or sports mascots. Removing the racist charicatures, then, is a step in the right direction. Regarding appropriation and minorities used as logos, etc: if "Aunt Jemima" had been the lady who started the company, no one would have given a second thought about her face on the bottle/box.

    Anyway, I guess I have to ask, who is "banning" these things? The decisions about Aunt Jemima and Uncle Ben were made by the companies. Washington didn't drop their team name because the NFL forced them to, they did it because of public pressure. Dr. Seuss's estate is choosing to no longer publish certain books. There isn't some central organization or government forcing these changes. Rather, times are changing, society is learning more, and we're fixing some of the insensitive/hurtful/just-plain-bad choices we've made in the past.
     
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    As I related above, when your young kids are eating Aunt Jemima pancakes with her syrup, seeing the face of black woman connected to yummy food, has a positive impact on the child's perspective of blacks. The same goes for many of the products sporting images of non-whites, and the same goes for the music a child is singing to around the house, where the artist is non-white. So why would the reaction be to do away with the positive image? If you hated blacks, you'd yell at your child from singing songs from "those people." You would not want them staring at a picture of a black person, while enjoying their pancakes and syrup, because they might see blacks in a positive light. The racist would also not want their child cheering for "The Braves" sports team, because that too is a positive feeling for a non-white person. It would be best to remove all references to non-whites, to reinforce white supremacy mentality with the white bigot's children.
     
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    What racist caricature is the face on Aunt Jemima, Uncle Ben, or the chef on Cream of Wheat?? Not wanting any images of non-whites to form a positive reaction, would be the exact desire for white supremacists. Meanwhile,white faces on the boxes at breakfast, reinforced white supremacists views on the world.
    Racists in this society are learning how they can use people to remove any positive images of non-whites, so all their children will see are white people, and white culture.

    I swear the actions of woke people are being used like useful idiots, in this regard. A simple reverse psychology works wonders on the woke.
     
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    Aunt Jemima was a much toned down "Mammy"-type image. I don't know about Uncle Ben or the Cream of Wheat chef. More than the images, though, I think the names were called problematic. It used to be that black folks were never refered to with a salutory title, like mister or miss. I don't remember the exact details around it, but aunt and uncle were essentially "lesser than" replacements for those. It was fine to call a black person "Uncle Ben," but "Mr. Ben" would have connoted some kind of equality or even authority. I'm far from an expert on any of this. However, when a marginalized group says an image or phrase is a charicature or otherwise offensive, I'm inclined to believe them.

    I agree that only seeing white faces reinforces white supremacy, but I think seeing racist charicatures of minorities is worse. Baby steps.
     
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    I agree. In Oklahoma the tribes demanded we remove the fabulous sculpture of and Indian brave from our license plates....and they've replaced with a boring state bird. We should celebrate people not birds. I'm for a "sooner" with a covered wagon now.
     
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    Only wif my magic recipe!
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    Dey sure needs me in dis house.
     
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    Dude if you see racisst charcitures in the muppets or Dr.. Seuss please seek professional help or maybe reread the wonderful 'Starz upon Thars' the best racist send up of all time and one even a 4 year old can understand.
     
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    You should probably go look at the images here, and maybe read the whole post while you're at it: https://library.nashville.org/blog/2019/08/tackling-racism-childrens-books-conversations-seussland.

    I love Dr. Seuss books and could probably still recite Green Eggs and Ham from memory. But I can also recognize flaws when I see them.
     
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    When I saw the faces of Aunt Jemima, Uncle Ben, and the man on Cream of Wheat, I was not exposed to any black people. I lived in a small town consisting of whites, Mexicans, native Americans, and even a few families from India. Seeing black people's faces on those products gave my young mind a very positive impression of black people. If all I saw were white faces, then I may have assumed black people were not worth anything.

    The sports team who named their teams after Native Americans, also was a positive. If Native Americans are never mentioned anywhere, young children who don't live in towns with NAs, will assume they are never mentioned, because they were not worth the time or effort to mention.
     
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    Which is exactly what a white supremacist would say, so he'd want to ban any mention of non-whites from every product on the store shelves, every book in the school library, and every sports team in America. Ban blacks from any image, and the white bigots will shake your hand. Way to go, useful woke people.
     
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    I had several honorary 'Aunts and Uncles' growing up. Nothing 'secondary' about them. They were not related by blood or marriage, but by good solid friendship, and given those titles of respect.

    Mr or Mrs or Miss shows more of a detachment, standoffish-ness.
     
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    Oh please!
    This is racist?
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    If you read the blurb that goes with it, its teaching the kid about CHOP STICKS....still very commonly used today!
     
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    Those are from the box. Kinda racist, doncha think? Granted, those boxes haven't been produced for a long time, but the racist imagery is crystal clear.
     
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    So you see these people as illiterate and stereotypical? I don't.
     
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    Nope. That's the point. She was portrayed that way.

    There were many Aunt Jemimas through the years. One woman whose aunt (or great aunt) was one. This woman is actually a little angry at the name change
     
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    Sorry it is an Asian dude in traditional Chinese Garb eating with traditional Chinese utensils. Instead of launching into some stupid crap about racial stereo types. She should have pointed out as was the point of mulberry street that the world is full of different cultures than the one in which she lives and different doesn't, in and off itself imply better or worse, merely different. Cultures, like gardens, tend over time to cross pollinate.

    Hell the English language is chock full of words borrowed from other times and places and other languages. And American culture is much the same.

    In short quit looking with eyes of condemnation and see instead with eyes of wisdom, delight, and whimsy. You'll live a longer, happier life and go to bed at night with a much less grumpy tummy.
     
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    I think exposure to and learning about other cultures/races is better done in school than through mascots used to make money.
     
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    Where is the harm in it? Really. And as i said, Little Debbie, Capt Crunch, etc... are fine, but Aunt Jemima must be banned? The woke will not be happy until any and all references, images and mascots are portrayed as culturally white European only.
     
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    Anecdote noted.
     
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    They are banning books by Dr. Seuss, because Seuss in 1950, was writing a book about imaginary animals from all over the world, and reference the people catching a creature for his zoo as "they wear their eyes at a slant." He then went on to make a image of a Russian which made them look stereotypical and silly.


    Honestly, this was not a racist story or book.
     
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    There's a lot of context that makes these problematic, beyond just the images. But if you look at the pictures of black people presented as gorillas, or exagerated "orientalism," and don't see anything wrong with it, there isn't much I can write on a forum that will change that.
     
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    I honestly don't know what to say if you think a kid's primary exposure to a marginalized group being logos and charicatures is not harmful. There's a whole base level of understanding that seems to be missing, in that case.

    I'll ask again, though, who is banning these things? The companies that produced Uncle Ben and Aunt Jemima products made the changes on their own. Sure, in response to societal pressure, but not because someone else forced them. Maybe you should define what it means to "ban" something so we can be sure we're talking about the same thing.
     
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    Amazon tweaks app icon after comparisons made to Hitler
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    Amazon has changed its new smartphone app logo after critics said the earlier incarnation was a dead ringer for Adolf Hitler.

    Good freaking grief already. And the sad thing is these corporate woke-***** go along with all this insanity.
     
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