Moderna Announces it has Shipped Variant-Specific Vaccine Candidate to NIH for study

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  1. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    I already read it and commented on it in this thread:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...may-cause-neurodegenerative-disorders.585426/

    This is the original article, which SHOULD have been cited by your source:

    https://scivisionpub.com/pdfs/covid19-rna-based-vaccines-and-the-risk-of-prion-disease-1503.pdf

    My first reading is the following: If I were to peer review this article, I would have rejected it, based on the following issue:

    To show that the prion-inducing sequences in the BioNTech mRNA are actually a problem, the author would have to show how common these sequences are in other mRNAs, including human ones. I am not a geneticist, but I believe that a four base GG*A motif, for example, would be extremely common. For example, a quick search for GGTA in https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/?term=GGTA+AND+srcdb_refseq[PROP] reveals almost 6750 hits, many in bacteria and fungi, but also some in humans.

    Without this information, it is impossible to determine whether these sequences actually would have clinical relevance. Furthermore, the mRNA is short lived, once injected. It is unstable on the bench after a few days at RT, so it will be even more unstable once injected at body temperature Therefore, I doubt that these effects will materialize when mRNA with similar sequences is probably intrinsically and permanently present in the body.

    Now, I think research should follow up on these questions, it is better to be safe than sorry. If there is a problem, I am sure these sequences can be modified to eliminate these mRNA sequence repeats, without losing activity. That's the beauty of the genetic code, each amino acid can be made by multiple mRNA sequences.
     
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    CenterField Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My friend, you're granting to this, more attention than it deserves. It's just another desperate, baseless, pathetic, clueless anti-vaxxer attempt disguised as fringe, junk science and authored by a nutjob. Nothing more. We've already debunked this ridiculous article in that other thread.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Because the mRNA injections were issued under EUA, there were no tests done on humans. Today's recipients are test subjects.

    That means we have not a clue as to the long term effects of the gene therapy. The short term effects are obvious--some die quickly, but the majority do not.

    We have not a clue as to whether immunity is conferred or not, but no such claim is made by the manufacturers.

    It's simply a type of Russian Roulette. 30+ pregnant women have lost their pregnancy, so let's roll the dice.

    As a healthy individual, there is no reason at all for me to roll the dice. Nothing to be gained for me. I have no desire to be a crash test dummy for pharma.
     
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    Question to the thread, please --

    The J&J vaccine will be available to the public 'arms' beginning this Saturday here in Colorado. Should we who have been thinking that we'd prefer to have the J&J vaccine go ahead and get it, and then get a Moderna "booster" when it is available?

    Maybe the real question is: are the Moderna and J&J vaccines compatible? Is it likely that the 'boosters' produced by either of these companies would be compatible?

    This is pretty simple stuff to you guys with a lot of medical education and/or experience, but to the rest of us, most of it is not! Thank you!
     
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    Either way, those taking the jab are in fact test subjects, crash test dummies, because there have been no human tests because these shots have been released under Emergency Use Authorization.

    Those few who die from them won't care, but those who are maimed will have no financial compensation because of the law.

    Best of luck to those taking the experimental drugs.
     

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