'Opening Texas 100%': Gov. Abbott rescinds statewide face mask order, business restrictions

He says businesses don't need the State to tell them when to be open or closed......so, why the heck did he force them closed all this time?

Having said that, its good the cases are down to a point where even Abbott will re-open his State.

'Opening Texas 100%': Gov. Abbott rescinds statewide face mask order, business restrictions
https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/l...d7pXgOfhb338cU5Ok7CNDdNlrYQSPobti_wPtWYjvOtno

Gov. Greg Abbott made the announcement from Lubbock, saying effective Wednesday, March 10, most statewide restrictions would be lifted.

Gov. Greg Abbott is rescinding statewide face mask orders and reopening all businesses starting next Wednesday.

Abbott made the announcement Tuesday afternoon, saying that any type of business is allowed to reopen 100%. Businesses are still allowed to implement capacity limits or safety protocols.

 

Yes.

Thread: http://www.politicalforum.com/index...tatewide-mask-mandate-opens-state-100.585651/

 

The original problem was... various liberal cities/counties/businesses in Texas began implementing their own draconian rules. And unfortunately, that will probably still be a problem.

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Well, then I guess Abott is powerless and useless and this means nothing

 

Sounds like there is some murmur about his decision, even among Republicans, but I think it was the right call. The local cities and businesses can make their own calls in regards to the restrictions.

Texas' local officials blast Gov. Greg Abbott for "irresponsible action" of lifting coronavirus restrictions
City and county leaders urged residents in their areas to still follow recommendations from health experts and officials that call for wearing face masks in public.
https://www.texastribune.org/2021/03/02/texas-coronavirus-mask-mandate/
Mayors and county judges in some of Texas’ largest urban areas criticized Gov. Greg Abbott over his decision to lift the statewide face mask mandate next week, saying it contradicts health officials’ advice as infections continue to spread throughout the state, which averaged over 200 reported deaths a day over the last week.

Fort Worth Mayor Betsy Price, a fellow Republican, called Abbott’s order “premature” and asked him to allow more people to get the vaccine.

“I am calling on Gov. Abbott to open up additional vaccine tier categories so that more people are eligible to get a vaccine if they want one,” Price said in a statement. “As the state’s directive has changed, so must our response. Now, more than ever, vaccines and testing must be readily available.”

 

I hope it doesn't happen but I think we are going to get another spike, and more deaths. And then people will be scared again, for longer than they should as the end of this IS visible

But what do I know. I'm just a liberal, thirsty for your toddler's blood and pining for your teenage daughter in the orgy.

 

We have a similar situation here in Florida. Governor DeSantis has done the right thing, but apparently, according to a county commissioner friend of mine, the county 'mandates' are predicated upon an EO issued from Tallahassee last year. Hopefully the EO will expire soon, but in the meantime different counties have different rules.

Many stores and such still have pictures of masks taped to the door, but few enforce the rule.

The end result is public displays of disrespect for the silly damn rules.

As Brandeis noted, the law will be respected when it is respectable. If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.

 

Down here in SE Florida businesses mandate them, and it is enforced. Not that it has to be enforced, since people don't seem to have an issue with it now that it has become a second nature.

The question is the spring break, which brings tons of young people here. They say they will post warnings and guide lines along hot spots and monitor. It the guide lines are not respected, the curfews will kick in.

 

Here in central Florida it's almost back to normal. Still many wear them in a comical fashion, but many don't. Dade, Broward and Palm Beach have always been like boroughs in New Yawk, and it's still the same, maybe worse.

 

Dade, Broward and Palm Beach is over 25% of Florida population, but having to wear a mask to Publix doesn't bother me, and why should it? Its normal enough for me. Miami-Dade has had Republican leadership for some time now, so I don't know it the old "New York borough" claim holds water anymore. As for Central FL, I know the parks there have pretty strict regulations.

 

Regulations that are ignored by many. That's the point.

Silly and illegitimate laws get no respect. I attended a car show in central florida in January that must have had 1000 attendees, all outdoors, and I doubt I saw 20 masks. Publix, Walgreens and Home Depot are chains that do not enforce it. They have signs to keep the frightened appeased, but they don't enforce them.

 

Shame on him for locking down in the first place and waiting so long to end it. A good thing but one based on being able to avoid criticism rather than one motivated by the science and common sense. Looks like Newsome is doing the same thing in California - obviously to stop the recall in his case. Sorry, I'm just not impressed with the typical mayor or governor. They do what is less risky for themselves personally rather than what is less risky for the population.

If you want a hero look at Kristi Noem in South Dakota. She understood the nonsense of fighting a medical crisis by creating an economic crisis. She didn't shut down anything. Her state is doing about the same as the rest of them. You can't fight disease by destroying economies.

 

I don't think outdoor events require them, at least not down here.

Its interesting central Floridians disrespect the rules set by private businesses and that even pharmacies don't enforce their own rules, especially knowing they can be penalized for it. I'll bet many elderly opt to skip a visit to a pharmacy seeing it full of unmasked people.

 

LOL, as long as we're betting, I would bet my last dollar that were you to attend an outdoor event in Dade, you would wear your mask.

As for what might be described as civil disobedience, Americans have long practiced it. Maybe the best example is pot smoking. It's been illegal for years, but for years many have done it in public.

The law will be respected when it is respectable. Thank you Mr. Justice Brandeis.

 

Me? No, I would not wear one outdoors, and I DO NOT wear them at beaches, golf courses etc.

You can send your money since you lost your bet.

There has always been law-breakers. Smoking pot in public? If you are caught smoking pot in Florida, and THEY DO enforce it, you will either get a ticket, or worse (depending where you are). By paying the ticket you plead guilty to a drug offence, which you will find very inconvenient when trying to find a job.

There are law-abiding citizens, and then there are those who are not. Criminals don't find any laws respectable, and choose to disrespect them all.

 

One thing to remember is that individual businesses retain the right to require "dress code" rules individually, and the order still allows for county judges to step in. It does, however, seem to remove the ability of mayors. Time will tell.

 

I suppose that depends on whether they have been vaccinated? If they have, what worries would they have?

 

I commend you for not wearing a mask on the golf course. I'm favorably impressed. You would fit in nicely in Okeechobee.

If you haven't observed people smoking pot in public, then perhaps you are not too observant.

No, the criminals in Congress do not respect the law, despite the fact they've taken an oath to protect and defend it. In formation they stood and urinated on the US Constitution by passing the Unpatriot Act, AUMF, Military Commissions Act and other illegitimate legislation over the years.

And if you drive at all on the interstate system, you know that large segments of US drivers are scofflaws, as the bulk of the drivers thumb their nose at speed limits.

Come down from your high horse. Scofflaws populate the earth.

 

They are not required, so why would I wear one? They are required in the pro-shop and the restaurants (and people wear them), but they are not required on the course.

I didn't say that I never observed it. I said that if you are caught doing it, you'll be in the kind of trouble I already explained. You wont have a clean record after that. Your record will say you are a drug offender.

So, yes, there are people who do not abide by laws. Why do you think we have prisons?

 

If the law required you turn in your brother for violating it, would you do it because the law required it?

Do you let the politicians determine your moral code? Do you have the state tell you the difference between right and wrong?

 

The United States Constitution gives our representatives aka politicians the authority to create laws. Most citizens abide by those laws, which is why they are called "law-abiding citizens", while some others choose to live outside the law, which is why they are called "law-breakers" and "criminals".

It is what it is broheem. I am sorry you don't like it. Anarchists could leave, but unfortunately there is nowhere to go, because every country has laws.

Wearing a mask in a store to protect others from my viruses does not rebel against my moral code.

 

Have you ever bothered to read or study the US Constitution? Not likely.

Article 1 Section 8 of that document states the following regarding the legislative powers of the Congress: "To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution..."

What that means is that Congress can pass only laws that are in accordance with the foregoing powers listed in Article 1 of the document.

What that means is that Congress CANNOT pass any old law it feels like.

If you study the foregoing powers, you will learn that there is no listed power for Congress to pass a law telling the citizen what clothing he must wear, including face diapers. Nowhere is that found.

You're welcome.

 

Yes, many times, which is why I said what I said. The Supreme Court (not you) makes sure that the laws are constitutional. That's also in the Constitution (just FYI).

 

Though I was never certified, I took a paralegal course years ago.

Did you know that every single law passed in the US Code contains a sort of Imprimatur (an old Catholic term) declaring the law to be constitutional? Every single one.

Of course certain laws are eventually found to be unconstitutional, but that comes only after somebody spends a boatload of money with lawyers to take a case up through the processes.

Point is, your claim that SCOTUS 'makes sure' that the laws are constitutional is naive as hell, and inaccurate too.

Here is a somewhat related example of the judiciary taking a stand. Second Circuit Rejects Obama Administration’s Effort to Block Privacy Lawsuit – JONATHAN TURLEY

 

How interesting. I am sorry you disagree with law and order. I am sure it makes life very difficult.