Rep. Madison Cawthorn (R,NC)should be held to same standards as Cuomo.

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  1. 61falcon

    61falcon Well-Known Member

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    Currently New York governor Andrew Cuomo is facing the prospect of a deserved inquiry into multiple accusations by women accusing him of sexual innuendo remarks and actions which they found highly offensive. He is currently accused by at least 3 women all with similar encounters with him. He also faces an inquiry into his handling of Covid patients being placed into senior nursing resulting in high UNREPORTED initially death rates in the nursing homes. We are also now learning that while in college just a few years ago, our youngest elected representative Madison Crawthorn of N.Carolina was accused by several female students of being subjected to his sexual advances which quite often involved a frightening ride in his high performance Dodge Challenger at high speeds on narrow country roads. These women apparently made the accusations while he was a candidate for office, but voters ignored their claims. The person who was the driver of the vehicle when Cawthorn was involved in a debilitating accident resulting in his being permanently disabled contends Cawthorn lied about the accident. He had claimed that the driver left him trapped in the damaged vehicle, while the driver claims he actually removed him from the wreckage. Because of some of the January 6 involvement by Cawthorn, raising his profile, the college women have renewed their accusations of sexual abuse against him. Should he not be held to the same standards Cuomo is being held to.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All should be held accountable. However, the accusations should be recent enough for a reliable investigation. After five years or so, the investigations get more difficult. Waiting twenty years is absurd.
     
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    No right wing or left wing opinions on Cawthorn being held to the same standard as Cuomo?
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This isn't a left or right wing issues. All accusations like these should be investigated. Then again, we all secretly know this Cuomo thing is about covering up the nursing home scandal. A few dirty old man comments is nothing compared to all the dead seniors. Damn, the left are pretty smart, I gotta give it to them!
     
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    Are you saying that because you are now more in tune with a woman's feelings on the matter?
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I transitioned back to male. Living as a woman was TOUGH. I may transition back at some point though.
     
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    You somewhat spoiled your first statement with your last one there.
     
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    You're right. My cover up theory is a different topic and doesn't belong in this thread. Sorry
     
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    Note there should be a statute of limitations on such claims. 20 years after the supposed event almost entirely because he's running as a candidate for office representing a political party you don't like appears, at best, a bit fishy.
     
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    The voters were fully informed when they voted for crawthorn, not when they voted for Cuomo. Perhaps they see behavior in college however many years ago different than behavior as an elected representative which is what Cuomo is accused of. Maybe they don't worry as much now that Cawthorn is in a wheelchair. Either way, I don't care that much about either's flirtations as long as there was no criminal sexual assault. Cuomo intentionally misled people about nursing home deaths. As a result of that healthcare providers, patients, and families were denied the opportunity to make informed choices about the care of the elderly. Cuomo killed people.
     
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    We now see similar charges being leveled against former White House Doctor Ronnie Jackson who is now a GOP representative in congress. He is being accused and evidently was in the past of both sexual abuse to his nurses but additionally both alcohol and drug abuse while on the job. His name, as proposed head of the V.A., was removed due to these allegations being brought against him previously.
     
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    Cuomo should remain in office until his term is over. Elections should matter.
     
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    So far, Cuomo has not been indicted, and he remains innocent, by law, until convicted of some crime.
     
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    N.Y. state A.G. has supposedly hired a private law firm with full subpoena powers to investigate fully all charges both sexual and Covid related deaths being brought against Cuomo.
     
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    Don't they have grand juries and prosecutors in NY?

    Is that "private law firm" full of big political donors? ;-)
     
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    There is a federal investigation into the Covid nursing home deaths in which even with all the once omitted deaths added in New York rate of Covid nursing home deaths was better than the 50 state average for Covid deaths in nursing homes.
     
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    They do but this is about a avoiding potential conflicts of interest.
     
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    Being unconvicted does not mean he didn't do it.
     
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    "Private law firms" are all in the "conflict of interest" business.
    Grand juries are not in any business.
     
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    Correct. He almost certainly "did it", but until convicted his election should not be nullified just because “The Gang of 600” is screaming for his removal from office.
     
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    I will freely admit that I was in full support of Cuomo as he didn't shy away from addressing the pandemic. Mistakes were made and should surely be thoroughly investigated. And I also agree that the accusations of the women should be thoroughly investigated. If he's found guilty, he should be removed from office. Having a D or R preceding their name should never give a politician a pass on wrong doing.
     
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    We now see that major similar complaints are being lodged against one time White House doctor presently elected GOP Rep. Ronny Jackson he also needs to be subjected to the same standards Cuomo is being subjected to.
     
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    There is no "high crimes and misdemeanors" language regarding impeachment in New York. It can be done for any reason whatsoever without pretense. https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/New_...ourt_for_trial_of_impeachments.3B_judgment.5D
     
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    So many seem to be missing one very important aspect of this situation: Cuomo is being held accountable by his own party.

    It's too soon to tell, but I doubt very much that the GOP will make any attempts to go after their own when it's clearly warranted.

    The Democrats appear to have far more integrity on this type of issue. Just sayin'.
     
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